Everyone Read (PLEASE)

[ManBeast]

This is a message I got off of a Drummer's board I read.

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This is to alert you to an issue with deeply troubling implications for our national schools. Panzerfaust, a white power music company based in Minnesota, plans to target youth through the distribution of 100,000 racist and anti-Semitic CDs to schools and other locations throughout the United States.

Volunteers including students from white supremacist groups are expected to help distribute the CD, with the main focus on reaching kids between the ages of 13 and 19. Panzerfaust hopes to use the hard-driving music to recruit youth to its racist and anti-Semitic ideology, and plans to make the CD readily available on its Web site for just 15 cents, so that white supremacist groups can easily purchase large quantities to hand out to kids.

In hopes of disguising the content of the CD, Panzerfaust points out that it has been designed "to be inconspicuous and not overtly racial so that it will be able to fly below the radar screen of teachers and other people"

Panzerfaust sells thousands of CDs of white power music bands from the U.S. and abroad. The company is largely run by ex-members of the neo-Nazi group, National Alliance. Racist and anti-Semitic rock music is now a major recruitment tool and source of funding for hate groups, with annual sales bringing in millions of dollars to the hate movement. Recent FBI statistics underline the susceptibility of youth to hate: 33% of all known hate crime offenders are under 18; 29% of all hate crime offenders are 18-24; and more than 10% of hate crime incidents reported occurred at schools and colleges.

The Plea For Peace foundation would like to encourage people to post this information in their surrounding circles to make those aware that this insanity still exhists and flourishes to a large degree. So again, Please do not hesitate to share this bulletin with your colleagues and family. The following link is the web site for this horrible source of hate. http://www.panzerfaust.com


Stand together and remember the idea of peace through music. Be young, Have Fun, Smash Racism!!

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I can't tolerate racism in any shape or form personally, and to see these people intentionally targeting young children... They have a slogan on their site "Panzerfaust: We don't just entertain racist kids... We create them." This just totally disgusts me, and I'm going to do everything I can to stop these people, They can make their hate and spew ignorance, but pushing this stuff on kids is just as bad if not worse than all the other crap kids are having to deal with today already.

MB

[bjf]

I agree, that is terrible

[DrSmellThis]

...took a look at their forum -- damn scary stuff. It would be interesting to know how these people justify their hate and violence to themselves.

[culturalblonde]

ask some of the younger generation about the Holocaust.

"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

[lordcrazyd]

Whose in charge of there message board, this has to be in some way illegal...

[belgareth]

I took a moment to listen to the recorded phone call to the school principle who was confiscating the CDs. The Panzerfaust guy sounded like an idiot who gets his way through bullying others. When the principle wasn't intimidated by empty legal threats he got verbally abusive which didn't seem to bother the principle either. I'm pretty sure the principle knew how empty the threats were.

I hope most principles have sense enough to confiscate and destroy that trash before many kids get to it. The principles where my kids attend school will certainly know about it tomorrow.

[Surreal]

only if they knew what moronic idiots they are being.

LUzErZ!!!!!!!

[Holmes]

More proof of just how far we humans have come.

[MOBLEYC57]

I never undestood how a PARENT, saying they love their kids, would even want to pass a seed of hatred on to their kids, giving them that extra chip to carry around on their shoulder during their life time. You would think that making a living, raising a family, and trying to keep up with the Joneses, is more than enough worry/problems. Why add RACISIM to that list? :think:

IGNORANCE is purely a desease. Bad seeds are often planted by ignorant parents, and not all of the bad seeds sprout and grow.

Even though there are still lots of parents/people that believe in planting that ignorant seed........

We're further today than we were yesterday.:blink:

[tim929]

Saddly...there is no law against this sort of crap.
Understanding the cause of these sorts of attitudes unfortunatly doesnt realy do a whole lot to put an end to them.But I would be willing to bet that it's simmilar to what one sees in hard core right wing christianity..."I have flaws,therfore I will hate someone else to make myself feel better.Then I dont have to feel bad about myself."

[Marlboro_man]

Although I srongly disagree with this groups and their values I still don't think there should be a law against this because it would be too much a blow against free speech. I know from my own expierience that (I am a white male 29) that people my age and younger are much less racist than our parents generation. I personally choose not to be around anyone who uses the N word. I still think there is hope and by the time I am a grand parent I would venture to say this would be pretty much a dead topic or at least I would hope so.



Saddly...there is no law against this sort of crap.
Understanding the cause of these sorts of attitudes unfortunatly doesnt realy do a whole lot to put an end to them.But I would be willing to bet that it's simmilar to what one sees in hard core right wing christianity..."I have flaws,therfore I will hate someone else to make myself feel better.Then I dont have to feel bad about myself."

[MOBLEYC57]

Although I srongly disagree with this groups and their values I still don't think there should be a law against this because it would be too much a blow against free speech. I know from my own expierience that (I am a white male 29) that people my age and younger are much less racist than our parents generation. I personally choose not to be around anyone who uses the N word. I still think there is hope and by the time I am a grand parent I would venture to say this would be pretty much a dead topic or at least I would hope so.
As long as the world turns, it will exist. There's always going to be someone that believes in passing that seed ... some will make it ... some won't. I'm in an area where the young one's are making an effort, from what I see and have seen. The N word as many put it, is used by racist when it comes to skin color, by those with brown skin when relating to friends and brown sking, but in Mobley's world it's just an Ignorant person, and they can be black, white, red, or even pink. My last relationship was interracial, and I broke it off after understanding that she will never change, at least not for me. Her last words to me was (and she was divorced), "my husband was right, you are a N!" She thought that would hurt my feelings, but what she didn't realize is that she was more of one that I will ever be, no matter how hard she tried to give me that stamp. She didn't know it, but the only thing that hurt me was finding out I was right ... she was with me to get at him. But still, I thank her, because she's the one that taught me how to not take things personal, and move on. I hope she's well, doing fine, and happy, as I'm sure she is. People are they way they chose to be, and there's no exception to that. In a life that's so full of ugliness, it still moves on, and I for one, am blessed to be able to spot the goodness and beauty that ugliness sometimes hides.

I often wish that I'd live to see the day when this touchy subject would disappear. I often wish that I could meet everybody on this earth, and it isn't fair that I won't. I wish I could find someone strong enough to fight for a relationship so there'd be TWO fighting. I wish that no one would be poor, and no disease was uncurable. I'm still here wishing, and I'll continue to wish until I'm dead.

[Marlboro_man]

Mobley would you agree that it is at least getting better than it was when you were a child? Also I would like to say that your attitude is exceptional and you realize that when these people who are being like that don't get a rise out of you they will just go away. After all I believe this is a way for these people to get attention or at least for most of them, others may just be psychotic.

[DrSmellThis]

Touching post, Mobes.

[MOBLEYC57]

Mobley would you agree that it is at least getting better than it was when you were a child? Also I would like to say that your attitude is exceptional and you realize that when these people who are being like that don't get a rise out of you they will just go away. After all I believe this is a way for these people to get attention or at least for most of them, others may just be psychotic.
Oh yeah! I definitely agree! :thumbsup:

As a child, it was normal for me to be walking down the street and hear ignorance pouring out of the window of a moving car. It's come a loooooooooooong ways, but still such a looooooooooooooooooooonger way to go. Miracles, in some areas, can take decades, but yet, still be a miracle! :thumbsup:

They're not all psychotic ... lost, would be my say, 'cause no one's born a bigot. :blink:

And not wanting to ruffle any feathers, this is my last statement on this touchy subject.:run:

Life is touching, eh, Doc? Thanks!

[culturalblonde]

I doubt that the subject will go away. There's always going to be certain economic classes, races, cultures, etc. that get "dumped on." This forum is no different. I read the jokes about "dumb bondes" "mentally challenged" and "women" to name a few. Go to the humor section and you will read a lot of sterotyping and sexism all in the name of fun and humor. But I can look beyond that and thank God I live in a country that allows freedom of speech.

[ManBeast]

There is a line (a very fine one I'll admit) between humor and hatred though...

MB