Newbie - Pheromone Usage

[lin7sg]

I would appreciate it if I could please have some advise on what pheromone I should use to attract my boyfriend to enhance our relationship. Also which type is suitable to be mixed with perfume and which type is suitable to be mixed with skin body lotion.

For some time now, our interactions have been not so good and I would like to enhance it and add some sparks to our relationship as it was from the beginning.

All you experienced users and successful users in this forum, please, please help me a damsel in distress.

I'm from Singapore and am an Asian Chinese and I do not know what is suitable. I do not know if there are different types of pheromone use for different ethic group. I need all you gals advise. Please help me.

Taking this opportunity to thank you all for being able to advise me and take the time to help me in my Quest to succeed.

[belgareth]

Lin7sg

Welcome to the forum. A good place to start is the pheromone reference library. You'll get a good base of knowledge to begin with. From that point there is a huge body of knowledge in the threads that will help you. We're all happy to help as well but you are going to get a lot of additional experience from the past users if you'll spend some time reading through the forum.

[NaughtieGirl]

Hi Lin7sg - So nice to meet you. Yes, keeping a relationship the way it was in the early days is a challenge. I miss some of that early day craziness myself! But hopefully after the bumps of change, you'll be able to enjoy a relationship where new joys and delights replace the old.

Regarding your questions.
There are indeed different types and you should go read in the Pheromone discussion forum:
- Newbies please click here + Best threads
- The Pherolibrary

The library contains extremely interesting info about the different types and their respective effects. From that page you can also go to the product guide and memorize the abbreviations so you'll know which product we are talking about with those cryptic letters such as AE/w. The product table, which is one of my favorite resources will give you the composition, concentration of pheromones, price etc. of the different products.

I personally don't believe that different ethnic groups have better success with different pheromones. I think it is greatly a function of your own personality. What are your own strengths and weaknesses and therefore, what would you like to enhance? The second consideration would be the desired effect. For instance: Are you trying to get your boyfriend to perceive you as more friendly or say, more assertive? Once you read up on the effects of the different pheromones, this question will make sense to you.

As to your question of a good supplier - you found the spot. I can promise you that this place is great. I'm pretty sure they ship internationally. You can order with confidence from these guys. If you're in a hurry - go to the store link at top of page and look into a "Newbie special". There's also a link on the left of the store's front page where you can chat live and ask for advice as to which product might be best.

All of this being said, I hope you like to read! I've spent hours reading up on it. Once you know the basics from the Library and the product guide, it is great fun to go delving into the archives. The early posts contain gems for newbies because people were more explicit in their descriptions.

I hope you stick around and keep us updated on how it goes! How's the weather in Singapore? My parents went there several times and loved S and Thailand and Bali. Great shopping in Singapore!

[countesszero]

Hi Lin7sg. Welcome to the forum. I think you'll like it here. My suggestion for you is to order the Beginners Special. It has TE, SOE samples and SPO. That's what I ordered my first time and I was very pleased with it. As for the types that are suitable for mixing you should indeed browse through the phero ref library it is very helpful.

Also I think the results you'll get are based on you as an individual. When it comes to relationships its best to find out what your partner likes (types of perfumes and fragrances) and work from there. My fiance loves flowery and fruity scents therefore I make sure that's what I use as a cover. I also like flowery and fruity scents.

I have a mix going that's really working for me (See my witches brew thread). I put this mix in my shower gel, my body lotion and especially my bed linens. It works very well and I'm sure you'll find something that works just as well for your self.

Good luck and have fun.

The Countess
Peace Out

[CptKipling]

So far the women's section of the Product Guide in the Pherolibrary has been neglected. I'll put something together using the sticky in the women's forum but I would appreciate it if the ladies would be so kind as to provide some suggestions as well.

[NaughtieGirl]

So far the women's section of the Product Guide in the Pherolibrary has been neglected. I'll put something together using the sticky in the women's forum but I would appreciate it if the ladies would be so kind as to provide some suggestions as well.
Hi Capt !

I spoke with Oscar about that yesterday and promised I'd give the guide and table a look for missing info re women's products. :angel:

[lin7sg]

You gals are simply fantastic. I never expected anyone to reply to me. I'm so happy I came into this Forum. That message was my first time (another newbie in that area). I will definitely listen to all your advice and go read the library and such.

Must have more sex appeal that's all. I look forward to more interesting news and advice from all you great people in this Forum.. Shall try to be more discipline in my reading and if I come up with anything interesting for losing weight and stuff, shall also let you know. Cheers and all the best to everyone and for all your support. I'm really overwhelmed.

[lin7sg]

PI/w is a great product. Please elaborate and how to buy. Thanks. Sorry for always troubling you. But I think you are simply great for your patience and your trying new things out technique. I must learn from you.

[NaughtieGirl]

Good morning! What time is it over there, I wonder?


Your best bet is to click on the Pheromone store link at the top of this page. Then click on the tabs that say Women. There even is a tab to print off a catalog. It's on the left on one of the pages.

Then (but he seems to be still asleep as of right now) you can click on the left top side of the page for Live Help. You can then chat Live with Oscar who is extremely helpful. :kiss: Like a walking talking pheromone product guide. :lol:

PI/w is the product that has the heaviest concentration of -nol. That's the pheromone that make people perceive you as "sweet, cute and friendly". Hope you don't mind getting called "Honey or sweetie" by strangers! Then you could add some PCC for sex-appeal. I've learned not to wear copulins before my husband is in a good mood. So my suggestion would be: first elevate the mood with the nols, then move in for seduction with the PCC. :angel: :angel: :angel:

[CptKipling]

Hi Capt !

I spoke with Oscar about that yesterday and promised I'd give the guide and table a look for missing info re women's products. :angel:
Thanks muchly!

[NaughtieGirl]

Hi! I feel like calling you Linsey - your handle is a bit difficult to type! Is that OK?

Regarding your question about perfumes and the Vera Wang perfume. Ideally you'd wear a perfume that both you and your boyfriend love.
So here's 2 ways of achieving that:

1) You could tell him - I'm going to go and buy a new perfume. I would love it if you came along to give your opinion on it. I don't want to buy a perfume you don't like. Then he goes to the mall with you and together you pick a perfume.

2) Many brands have an assortment of small vials / samples for sale. Buy one or two of those and start testing. One scent on one wrist, another on the other wrist. Work by elimination.

Naughtie hint: You could put some pheromones under your perfume and then you have the perfect excuse to ask - Which one do you like best? This one or that one? :lol:

Guys - Don't get upset at me! I'm just trying to make my man as happy as I possibly can!

[belgareth]

Naughtie hint: You could put some pheromones under your perfume and then you have the perfect excuse to ask - Which one do you like best? This one or that one? :lol:

Guys - Don't get upset at me! I'm just trying to make my man as happy as I possibly can!
Mad? That's very clever!

[NaughtieGirl]

Mad? That's very clever!
I guess somewhere deep down inside I'm still feeling some guilt at not disclosing the "secret ingredient" of all my perfumery experimentation.
:sad:

All the botles are pretty much out in the open. But then again, I have soo much stuff in the bathroom, I could hide an elephant in there unnoticed!:lol:

Thanks for the comforting reply! :kiss:

[lin7sg]

:type:
Hi, good morning, you can simply call me Lin.
:wave:
Its now 26.04.2005 Tuesday morning in Singapore about 1.00am. Just simply dying to find out what to do.
:sad:
I think my boyfriend ever mentioned before that he feels that I shouldn't have to wear perfume so I don't think an excuse to ask him to go perfume shopping with me is applicable.
:p
But he has mentioned before that he likes the Lux White Lilac Shower Cream when I brought him grocery shopping and ask for his advice on shower cream. Is this smell, similar to "Lily of the Valley"?
:lovestruc
I took your advice and read up on some information. I was told that Orange smell has the highest hits for men. It is from the Pheromone Reference Library.
:confused:
What about essential oil? It also states about Sandlewood and Ylang Ylang. Jasmine not so good as it might attract more females than males. I was thinking of adding a few drops -nol (not sure which simply -nol to buy, advise please) to the essential oil (not sure for sandlewood or ylang ylang - advise please) and after shower just lightly rubbing over. It moisturises the skin as well. And the rest of the bottle of -nol and musk under perfume. This is before meeting him of course, unless it might be an overkill.
:hammer:

Just want to find one that will get the desired effect of
:kiss:
and not
:LOL:
or
:run:
Hee Hee.

Any witches brew recommendation from you experienced users first started out.
:box:

[NaughtieGirl]

Hi Lin,

:lol: You sure are going smilie-crazy tonight! You are exactly 12 hours ahead of me.

Did you go to the live chat with Oscar?

I would find a nice perfume to cover the -nol. Essential oils are fun, but I have yet to figure out a mix that smells as good as some of the commercially available products.

[lin7sg]

Hiya NaughtieGirl

About to sleep, way past my bedtime. Gotta wake up early but saw your post and I simply had to read it. Pheromones or not, sleep is also essential to look good. Self-nagging now.
:nono:
Nope, I haven't gone on Live Chat with Oscar yet. Will do soon, very very soon. Sent you an email. Brain now oozy, going for my beauty sleep. Chat soon.
:blink:
Lin
:wave:

[countesszero]

Hi Lin. I never tried Lux White Lilac but it sounds really nice. If your boyfriend doesnt like perfumes all that much just get something really light. Like I've said Victoria Secrets Pear is really light and not at all overpowering. Or you can get the Lux White Lilac in a perfume form and use that for a cover.

The best thing to do in situations like this is to apply your pheromones and cover in the morning and only apply a little more cologne in the afternoon.Or hours before you are to see your boyfriend. That way when you do see your boyfriend everything has settled down and there's only a slight scent.

The Countess
Peace Out

[dolly]

Hi Lin....just putting my 2 cents' worth in here. I find that when you've already "attracted" someone, but you need that spark back, copulins work best. I use EW, but some newbies have a problem with that. My friend has a similar boyfriend, who doesn't care much for heavy perfumes, so she buys PCC. She even used PCC layered with PI, so that she can use the soft scent of PCC as a cover. You might want to try it!

[lin7sg]

PCC layered with PI? What about AE/w? What effect does that help. Are these all scented?

[dolly]

PCC layered with PI? What about AE/w? What effect does that help. Are these all scented?

Well, yes, it does help, because PI/w is -nol with a touch of copulins, and PCC is nothing but copulins, so you have different pheros to work with. PCC is very lightly scented with a cucumber-melon scent, while PI is unscented. Now, AE/w is another story, it is scented. A lot of women love it, but I personally cannot wear it. The scent smells bad on me.

[countesszero]

Dolly I'm sorry to here that AE/w's scent doesnt agree with you. Have you tried to cover it with anything. I use essential oils as a cover. (Honeysuckle or Violet) It is so true that what works for some may not work for others.

Lin, PCC works like a charm. That is one ingredient in my mix that I can't go without. It brings out the animal in my fiance and makes me feel good too.

The Countess
Peace Out

[dolly]

Dolly I'm sorry to here that AE/w's scent doesnt agree with you. Have you tried to cover it with anything. I use essential oils as a cover. (Honeysuckle or Violet) It is so true that what works for some may not work for others.

Lin, PCC works like a charm. That is one ingredient in my mix that I can't go without. It brings out the animal in my fiance and makes me feel good too.

The Countess
Peace Out

Yeah, I tried to cover it, but to no avail. There is just something in the scent that disagrees with my body chemistry....that's ok, though, I bought the separate -mones, and using the product tables' ratios as a guide, I made a darn good substitute. As an extra kicker, I add an extra splash of EW....gets the job done!

[countesszero]

Yeah, I tried to cover it, but to no avail. There is just something in the scent that disagrees with my body chemistry....that's ok, though, I bought the separate -mones, and using the product tables' ratios as a guide, I made a darn good substitute. As an extra kicker, I add an extra splash of EW....gets the job done!
Hello Dolly. I bet you get that alot. Well it sounds like you've got all your bases covered. The substitue you've concocted with a splash of EW sounds like a winner to me. You should be a chemist. I too like to add EW to my mixes it does give me a little something extra. I also put a drop in my scented body lotion and I cant smell it at all.

The Countess
Peace Out

[NaughtieGirl]

Yeah, I tried to cover it, but to no avail. There is just something in the scent that disagrees with my body chemistry....that's ok, though, I bought the separate -mones, and using the product tables' ratios as a guide, I made a darn good substitute. As an extra kicker, I add an extra splash of EW....gets the job done!
Well... a fellow chem-set user? :thumbsup: I should be receiving my A- and B-nols in the mail today. After my success with PI/w, I want to spike every product with -nol! The product table is my most favorite resource as well.

Isn't this all such great fun! Perfumes, lotions, pheromones, essential oils, aromatherapy! "A synergistic blend" the books would call it! I wonder why there aren't more women here? Aren't we always looking for that perfect perfume that will enhance our looks and personality?

[lin7sg]

Hi Cpt

Are you going to post a product guide for women? Is that a more comprehensive guide with the mixes or just what types and ways of using the product.

BTW, it that a instruction manual with the "mones" when you buy them?

Anyway, going to order very soon.
:angel:

Waiting for "pay-day".
:sad:

Lin

[CptKipling]

If you look at the men's products currently listed here (http://pherolibrary.com/guide/product-guide.htm), you will get an idea what the womens one looks like.

I'm just formatting it all at the moment, but I have some other stuff on so it won't be a fast job.

[dolly]

Well... a fellow chem-set user? :thumbsup: I should be receiving my A- and B-nols in the mail today. After my success with PI/w, I want to spike every product with -nol! The product table is my most favorite resource as well.

Isn't this all such great fun! Perfumes, lotions, pheromones, essential oils, aromatherapy! "A synergistic blend" the books would call it! I wonder why there aren't more women here? Aren't we always looking for that perfect perfume that will enhance our looks and personality?

Try getting some -rone too.....a little splash of that usually gives me an "up" feeling....you may want to try it out.

[dolly]

Hello Dolly. I bet you get that alot. Well it sounds like you've got all your bases covered. The substitue you've concocted with a splash of EW sounds like a winner to me. You should be a chemist. I too like to add EW to my mixes it does give me a little something extra. I also put a drop in my scented body lotion and I cant smell it at all.

The Countess
Peace Out


Yeah, I also have some mixes that are nothing but EW with a scent. And, I mix it strong (about 50-50)....when I want to bring out the true "animal" in my boyfriend!

[NaughtieGirl]

Try getting some -rone too.....a little splash of that usually gives me an "up" feeling....you may want to try it out.
Yep it's on the list as soon as I can afford it. I'm even thinking about completely forgetting the none and replacing it with some -rone instead. -None seems to make either my husband argumentative, or me or both! NOT the desired effect!

[SitBackNRelax]

Yep it's on the list as soon as I can afford it. I'm even thinking about completely forgetting the none and replacing it with some -rone instead. -None seems to make either my husband argumentative, or me or both! NOT the desired effect!
what products have rone in it currently?

also dif you gals read what bruce wrote in the newsletter.. ? some new stuff will be coming out for the gals.. woohoo.. about time!!

[NaughtieGirl]

what products have rone in it currently?

also dif you gals read what bruce wrote in the newsletter.. ? some new stuff will be coming out for the gals.. woohoo.. about time!!
- SOE/unscented which is the same as SOE/m: 4 nols and 1 Rone
- AE/w has 2 nols, 1.5 Rone and 1 None

Then there's always the chem-set -rone of course.

I have the SOE/m. I only tested it once in the car. The ride home (after I had put it on) went alot better than the ride over (when I wasn't wearing it). I might add more -nol to the SOE/m, just to see.

Yes, these are exciting times! Can't wait either! :angel:

[bjf]

Yep it's on the list as soon as I can afford it. I'm even thinking about completely forgetting the none and replacing it with some -rone instead. -None seems to make either my husband argumentative, or me or both! NOT the desired effect!


Other than extremely extremely small doses, I am not sure why you thought none would help you. It is a dark masculine mone, and that isn't going to be much of a turn on to your husband.

Rone likely won't be either, as it is more of a masculine androgen but it should give you a bit of a buzz.

[NaughtieGirl]

Other than extremely extremely small doses, I am not sure why you thought none would help you. It is a dark masculine mone, and that isn't going to be much of a turn on to your husband.

Rone likely won't be either, as it is more of a masculine androgen but it should give you a bit of a buzz.
You're quite right. I don't own AE/w, and don't plan to. I bought some NPA on a TGIF special way at the beginning, and I did not have good results with it at all. I'm sticking to Nol now. Just thinking of testing out what a teenie little bit of -Rone added to all that Nol would do? A buzz you say?

I wore SOE/unscented to my workout class this morning. It was a great, high energy class, but I cannot necessarily attribute that to the mones. It is pouring out but I feel on top of the world! Could be the endorphin high though.

[bjf]

"beginning, and I did not have good results with it at all. I'm sticking to Nol now. Just thinking of testing out what a teenie little bit of -Rone added to all that Nol would do? A buzz you say?"

Well, that is what SOE is. It is 4:1 Nol to rone, or is it 3:1? In any case, how you feel off of it doesn't surprise me, because of both components.

[NaughtieGirl]

"beginning, and I did not have good results with it at all. I'm sticking to Nol now. Just thinking of testing out what a teenie little bit of -Rone added to all that Nol would do? A buzz you say?"

Well, that is what SOE is. It is 4:1 Nol to rone, or is it 3:1? In any case, how you feel off of it doesn't surprise me, because of both components.Yes it is 4:1 Nol to Rone. Women do also have some (minor amount of) testosterone in their system, next to the estrogen and progesterone. A testosterone deficiency has been diagnosed as the cause for low libido in women as well. (Not that I'm trying to increase it) I was just curious whether the - Rone might add some "non-confrontational presence" to the mix. But all in all, it's just for the fun of experimenting. When it matters, straight Nol is just fine.:angel:

[lin7sg]

\o/

I broke up with that guy and didn't waste any of my precious purchase :P

How's my favourite gals on Forum in this thread

Meeting my new guy soon. Got to know each other not in the usual way and going to test my kit ^^

I got PCC and a citrus oil with androstenol. I also bought Realm.

S.O.S

So I apply PCC then spray Realm or
apply PCC then use the androstenol or Androstenol first then roll on PCC.
:think:

Urgent !!

Flying to meet him next week