yeah it is pricey, i emailed him
now and he said he will reduce the price for me if i order through him. His stuff seems cool but u need quite a bit
of time everyday for three weeks if u want to accomplish the course
ck
yeah it is pricey, i emailed him
now and he said he will reduce the price for me if i order through him. His stuff seems cool but u need quite a bit
of time everyday for three weeks if u want to accomplish the course
ck
How muchOriginally Posted by slick
would he sell it to you for?
"Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
----Swinggcat
I have bought the 21 Day Demonic
Confidence course from Archer Sloan at a cost of over $200.00
However, it does require a 21 consecutive day
commitment to do the in-field exercises (30 minutes to 2 hours per day) which I can't do right now due to my work
schedule.
As mentioned earlier, it consists of progressive conditioning which requires you to expand your
"comfort zone" on each outing.
Sloan also claims that the changes made become permanent and that you don't
have to redo the exercises after the 21 - day period, although most people will benefit from doing so at some point
afterwards.
It's getting good reviews on the Yahoo discussion forum.
I posted the link to the forum
earlier in this thread.
$197.79 +$6 s&h.
Originally Posted by slick
and that was a reduced price?!?
So are the girls voices as
erotic as Mr. Sloan suggests? In his description of the product he really states that the girls voices are worth the
cost alone or he will eat his hat. For those of you who have it, Is it true? And do you feel it was worth the cost?
Does the purchase come with alot of items?
hi einstein
in your previous
post u said u got How To Get That Specific Girl To Obsess Over
You.” , im just wondering have u used it yet and what are the results like? and does it take
a long time to learn all the stuff on it? , im thinking of buying that and demonic confidence
cheers
ck
I haven't used it yet. It
seems pretty easy to learn, although I don't know too much about anchoring. You have to memorize about 35
questions, I think that's the most difficult part of learning it. The use is a lot simpler than Ross Jeffries.
These courses seem pretty
interesting... has anyone actually used them and had results? What kinds of stuff do the courses say and/or ask you
to do?
yeah thanks einstein, i was just
wondering if it is easy to learn because ive got some of ross's stuff and im finding it very hard to understand, i
might give archer a try anyway
cheers
ck
join the archer yahoo group
lagrimas, u will find a lot out there, ive been reading a lot about the demonic confidence and it seems really
interesting, its like in a previous post someone wa saying u have to go up to 30 women and ask the time on the
first day and then u keep on progressing and each tasks gets more harder, like on day 15 i think u have to go up to
30 women and asking them to join u for a coffee, im not sure what u have to do on the last day but i bet it will be
scary, im thinking of getting the course but it seems quite scary to do for me anyway as i am shy, but i guess it
will be worth it in the end.
Totally worth it. There's a lot more to it than justOriginally Posted by slick
approaching people. Like, there are days when you don't approach at all. They've got a really incredible
sequence with different ways of doing affirmations, and a workbook that helps you focus. They have this CD coming
out which is part of their CD newsletter explaining how they structured Demonic Confidence and why it works so well.
It's only three bucks, so it seems worth it.
but what if on Day 15 you
get really lucky and all 30 women you've approached go for the coffee?
i guess i will have a really bad
caffeine rush and be off my face
I wasOriginally Posted by koolking1
thinking about that too and the extra money I would have to pay.
"Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
----Swinggcat
That is still alot of money, I would get a few more mones or some new shoes instead or I would justOriginally Posted by slick
go up to 30 women and ask them the time.
"Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
----Swinggcat
iv'e got louds of mones, louds of
shoes, all i really need is a good jolt of confidence, judging by the posts i have seen this course is going to give
me an extra edge
Originally Posted by slick
Keep in mind that the Demonic Confidence Programs requires a 21
consecutive day commitment, with anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours per day.
I believe day 19 and day 20
require a full days commitment.
I have the program, but have not yet started it due to the time commitment.
Watch out though! On that Yahoo discussion forum,Originally Posted by PHP 87
all posts are reviewed by the administrator (aka Archer Sloan himself) before they are posted up on the message
board. His message board is nothing like this one because he controls everything that is posted on it. So,
obviously, you're only going to find good testimonies there about his products because he's using that message
board as a means of selling his product. If you notice on his ebay auction pages, he specifically asks you to join
his Yahoo group and I think this is to help get people to buy his products because it looks like a discussion group
(like this one) but in reality, he's controlling what's being put up there (example, he's only letting good
testimony go up).
Of course, for all I know, his stuff could really work and nobody is actually saying anything
bad about it. We just don't know because he has to approve of the message before it goes up. I just wanted to make
that point clear because his message board is a bit misleading, especially after being on this pheremone discussion
board where people can pretty much say what they want.
You made a good point about
Archer approving all the messages before they go on the board. I think he's pretty fair, I've seen some things on
thier that Archer would prefer didn't get posted. Thaddeus Inge had a thread going that archer considered pretty
dangerous. I've also seen several "How much for .......?" posts, when he's said numerous times to email him
personally about prices, not on the group.
They have a money-back guarantee, and say nobody has ever asked for ther
money back. And you can check thier ebay feedback. 139 positives, 100 unique, and 7 negatives. Some of those 7
negatives shouldn't be there. (Its true, he doesn't ship in a box)
My biggest criticism of the archer sloan
products is that sometimes they are a bit abstract. Like you have to know something about NLP or hypnosis already
to fully understand the product.
Price isn't an issue, a product that does what these are supposed to (I
haven't actually used them yet, don't know if they work or not) is worth much more than what you pay. I'm also
not concerned about the slow shipping. 25 years of low confidence and no girlfriend, another month isn't going to
hurt.
nice 1 lagrimus, never thought
about that, guess ill have to try it for myself, einstein how long does he take to ship, i ordered mine a couple of
days ago
cheers
ck
archer sloan must be better than
ross jefferies. i guess? anybody have comments on ross jefferies? like i said before i have a buddy who has the
deluxe home study that he let me borrow. i haven't looked at it yet. can anybody tell me if it's worth my time and
effort.
To be fair, it seems that moderation on a yahoo newsgroup is the only way to stop spamming. WeOriginally Posted by Lagrimas
were all for having an unmoderated group, but several people told us it wouldn't be a good idea. Yes, of course,
the group helps us generate sales (as does this forum for Bruce), but it also helps people use our products better
(again, just like this forum).
That being said, the ONLY posts we don't approve (I am a moderator as well)
are spam and ones that seemingly have no relevance to what our group is about. We have several posts from people
who have difficulty using our products and we welcome criticism. We're not scared of a few detractors; I gauge it
as a certain measure of success.
As a matter of fact, we even welcome comparison between what we do and what
others do (like David DeAngelo and Ross Jeffries; there are several posts about DeAngelo's stuff).
The only
reason we don't have posts that severely criticize our products is because no one has posted any. We get great
reviews of our stuff and our material stems from research far outside of the regular hypnosis and NLP
communities.
The criticism that our products ship late is a well-founded one. We've had several problems
with that and are getting a good fulfillment house to take care of that. But, as far as criticisms go, I'm happy
to live with it. Better to get a great product with valuable information late than to get a mediocre product on
time.
And yes, our products are also on the pricier end (though not as expensive as Kenrick Cleveland and a
few others). That's for two reasons.
1) nearly all other NLP/Hypnosis products have a similar foundation or
precursor. These communities are very incestuous and the information is repetitive. Our products, while having
minor ties to these fields, stem from research that forces us to travel to foreign countries to find other teachers
(Abbas, for example). As a result, you find little to no overlap in information from any other
instructor.
2) structure. It seems that all other instructors take their seminars and put them to tape. So,
you have 14 hours of video or CD, and only an hour or two of value, spaced haphazardly, with no structure, no real
sequence. We actually spend time organizing and designing the sequence of learning. Simply put, we actually put in
time to create our products.
I thought I'd help to clear some of those things up. Feel free to email me
personally at lucasjwest@yahoo.com, or ask on the newsgroup for any questions you might
have.
Lucas
Anyone got archer's product
called (being a natural), if so is it worth getting?
LucasWest, is there a web site yet
with all the products listed?
Also, I've had the Demonic Confidence program for about 10 months now, but
with my schedule, just can't find the time to get started on it.
Any suggestions?
BTW, my weekend
work schedule requires about 32 hours of my time which is what is holding me up and preventing me from starting the
21 day program, and leaves me too exhausted to go out and approach, do exercises etc...
And I'm also in a
work enivornment where there are no women to approach either.
I've read that it doesn't work skipping a day
or two and picking up where you left off.
Any input on a workaround would be appreciated as I would really
like to try the DC program.
Thanks
all you need for a confidence is
affrimations and attraction isn't a choice ebook by david d.
Actually, I just ordered the
"Attraction Isn't a Choice" ebook from D'Angelo on eBay and am waiting on it.
Also, affirmations have a
limited effectivness, whereas the "Demonic Confidence" program is based on doing "real world" exercises out in the
field, not just "visualizing" or "telling" yourself thru affirmations that you are confident etc...
Not that
affirmations don't have their use, but they must be done on a regular or semi-regular basis, whereas the Demonic
Confidence program is purported to make the changes internal and permenant because the results come from real life
experiences - the experiences that you do in the field for 21 straight days which are not just visualized or
attempting to "hypnotize" yourself with affirmations and tyryng to convince yourself thru repetition of becoming
someone without actually doing it.
The Demonic Confidence program does indeed incorporate Affirmations and
Visualizations, but they also combine them with real world experineces and exercises.
If you do daily
affirmations for weeks telling yourself that you can hit a 90MPH Fastball thrown by Roger Clemens, it won't
work.
But if you go out and take batting practice for 21 straight days with the help of a batting coach,
starting with, for example, trying to hit a 40 MPH pitch and progressively working your way up to 90MPH, and using
postive visualizations/affirmations over those 21 days, which method would be more likely to get you the desired
result?
Again, I have not yet done the DC program due to the 21 consecutive day commitment it takes, but from
reviewing it and reading about it, it is unlike any other self-improvement program I've ever seen or heard
of.
It seems to go way beyond the usual NLP/Visualizations/Affirmations/"I am the Prize" mentality type of
thing.
Last edited by PHP 87; 04-07-2005 at 03:50 PM.
affirmations the ross jefferies
way is doesn't take any effort. substitute "You" for "I". say your affirmations it into a tape recorder with
conviction for 30 mins. listen to it atleast twice a day, doesn't matter if it's active or inactive listening as
long as your unconcious mind hears it. i've stopped listening to affirmations but i've learned to do mental
rehearsals and visualizations automatically, where it's become a mechanism, throughout the day when ever i feel my
inner game go below 200%.
that's true though no matter what you need real life experience.
btw if that's
your pic in the icon, you're a good looking guy. that's all the confidance you need.
I too have the RJ Confidence tapes,
and there is some debate about whether "you" or "I" is more effective.
I too have made an affirmations tape
and listened to it, but didn't wasn't too impressed with the results so I haven't used it in a
while.
Also, I'm looking for the "Holy Grail" of self-confidence, so I'm going to give the DC program a
try.
BTW, the avatar pic is of "Eddie Haskell" from the old "Leave it to Beaver" TV show - LOL!
The guy
was real cocky and funny.
Also, I'm above average in looks, but even the best-looking guys, guys with money,
great physiques etc...don't get far without the right attitude and without confidence.
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