Reply With QuoteYou got me here. Oregon is
rainy, so I haven't the slightest idea.
Mones in the Sun
Hi all!
I'm
just about to go on holiday to a Greek island. While I'm there I'll be sure to go to some bars.
So, Does
anyone have any recommendations on which mones I should bring? (Keep in mind I'm going for 20-something girls (I'm
28 myself, a bit skinny and quite shy unfortunately)
Anyway, I was thinking about bringing my Chikara and
maybe my TE and SOE as well. Been thinking about Pheros, but the scent might not be right for those warm summer
nights.
Other stuff I have: AE, WAGG, EE Arouser, Realm, NPA, PI as well as some SOE and TE Gels.
So,
anyone have any good ideas/ratios?
Last edited by ShyGuy; 07-30-2004 at 12:43 PM. Reason: Fixed spelling of Chikara :-)
You got me here. Oregon is
rainy, so I haven't the slightest idea.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
What is it with guys and looking for women in bars?Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Visit the shops and find the local girls who have jobs. Chat them up (you'll have plenty of excuses). Let them
tell you what to do for fun in the evenings.
Make friends with some local guys and get invited to parties.
Do something interesting.
Mix up a batch of TE gel and
Pheros, perhaps with a few drops of AE (wish it was unscented...)
Mix up NPA and AE @ 1:2
I'll
post some more soon. I am holidaying in two weeks (WAHOO!), and am thinking about what to take aswell.
Well, from
what I hear the local boys don't look kindly on tourists who try to pick up 'their' girls. Don't want to get
into trouble!
Girls from other countries who are working there just for the summer might be an option though.
Never picked up a girl at a shop though... might be difficult if she is being too professional? It might be hard to
know if she likes me or if she just wants that sale!
That's what being discreet is for.
The way I see it, you have two ways to go. Locals
and fellow tourists. Depending on the demographics of the folks coming to the area you're going to, the latter may
or may not be an option. If it is, hang out at some restaurants that have patio seating out front, preferably on a
trafficked street and near the door. One schtick to ply (uggh, I can't see myself doing this, but to each his own)
would be to keep a map handy to study while eating or having a drink in such a spot and ask people passing by (ie,
women alone or in small groups) for guidance/assistance finding something. After a bit of small talk, find out
something they're interested in seeing / going to, and say you were looking for that too. Depending on how it's
going, you can either leave it there and let her move on the unspoken offer or offer to take her along with
you.
I've always had better luck with befriending a local or two, then going to the things they do. As long
as you don't come off as a blazing dork, locals are usually pretty open everywhere I've been. There have been a
few times I've been travelling and encounted one who was looking for nothing more than a short-term fling, one I
was more than willing to supply them with.
Whenever I'm going to go out and bake myself, regardless of
the activity, I take it easy on, if not completely do without, the mones. You're probably going to want to go for a
swim, so there they go..
I'd bring the Chikara, AE, and NPA, mixing as appropriate for the occasion, but
that's just me.
Dude, you don't pick up the girls. You find out where
the real night life is. It may very well be in a club, but hopefully it's a club with good music and good
dancing.
What are you planning to do? Run into the first tourist trap closest to the harbor, hoping there are
hot women just waiting for a foreign schmuck to come and try his moves on them?
Stop and think about it. Guys
are constantly hitting on women in bars. If you think the pheromones are going to make you something special, you
have another thing coming.
You'll get some looks, smiles, and hair flips. Big deal. How are you going to talk
to them? What are you going to talk about? Do you just lean back and start talking about yourself? If a girl asks
what you do, do you tell her or do you make her jump through a few hoops?
If you can't get the job done where
you are, what advantage does being in a strange land confer upon you?
And let me add one more thing.
If you are going to be in the neighborhood for more than a day, MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN. Just get into as many casual
conversations as you can. Don't ask too many questions, but do ask about the way people live. Ask them in a very
interested way how they like it there, what they do, etc.
Find out where they do their thing. Then go and make
yourself visible. Try to take yourself to 2-3 local spots a night. Don't hang around and look useless. If you see
anyone you have met, just swing by and say hello. Don't try to hang around. If you are invited to join someone, do
it for 10-20 minutes and then say good-bye.
Be active. Be busy. But establish a routine that takes you into
contact with some of the local ladies. Even if they are not available, if you get in with their crowds, you may meet
someone. If nothing else, you may make some temporary friends.
Hey guy, it seems like you have about every pheromone
that is in stock. Or virtually everything under the SUN. Have you had any success at all, with any of them?
Not that much I'm afraid. But then again, I'm a SHY GUY ;-) I
have noticed more attention of course, as well as good social effects. Haven't gotten any sex because of mones
though... If you're a shy guy you're pretty much screwed no matter how many mones you have.
You are halfway there.
Why are you just accepting that you are shy and letting that be the final
word? That may not be the case, but that's how it reads. There is nothing MAKING you shy, get out there and enjoy
yourself - if you make a fool out of yourself, who cares?
Everyone can change
Good advice from Friendly
BTW
Sorry, what did you mean?
Your internal dialogue/self labeling has a lot to do with not only
how you perceive yourself, but also how others perceive you. Admittedly, advice I often forget myself. I made my
first breakthroughs by using Marshall Sylver's Passion, Profit, and Power self-hypnosis series. An
affirmation I got from it that I find helps a lot is:
Sylver touches all the bases, money,I am unstoppable, everything I touch turns to
gold. I am a dynamic, creative, awesome human being!
relationships, and self esteem. There are a lot of similar courses out there, some involving self-hypnosis and
others using creative visualization. In fact, another tape I recommend is Shakti Gawain's Creative
Visualization. This is only one cassette, so is less costly than Sylver's program. Nightingale Conant also has
many good self-inprovement programs, ranging from the more mainstream to the mystical. YMMV, so perhaps checking out
your library is an option first if money is limited.
Overcoming shyness is in large part a matter of desensitation. The more
effort you make to open up around people, the easier it becomes. Dale Carnegie and Toastmasters can both help you.
My former employer sent me through the Dale Carnegie course shortly after I went into management. Despite my
leadership skills, I rarely spoke in public before taking the course. The first time I had to get up in front of the
group and speak, I thought I was going to wet myself. Now, I do presentations to groups, lecture to several classes
and, when it suits me, can become the center of any crowd with either serious conversation or jokes.
There are
many ways to overcome shyness but you have to do it for yourself. The rewards are more than worth the work though.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
You understand the basic problem. Now you just need the solution. We are offering you guidance
toward a solution, but you have to figure it out for yourself. Every shy guy finds a different way to come out of
his shell.
You will get nowhere if you strive to achieve nothing with yourself. You turned to pheromones
because you wanted a change. You just need to realize that first you need to change yourself.
The pheromones
will do their job, but you need to do yours.
Thanks for the great advice
everyone. I'm off to the airport now. Bye bye.
BTW: The mones I decided to bring were: Chikira, TE, Pheros
as well as a few TE and SOE gels... Should be enough :-)
Have fun!
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