girl: ohh what kind of
cologne do you wear?
you: ball sweat.........
girl: .....................
Sup,
Glad to be here. I've read through the Pherolibrary, etc, and the Newbie threads. I recently ordered some
SOE, NPA, and AE.
I'm 21 (turning 22 soon). 5'9" ...I've never tried pheremones before, but the whole
getting checked out, approached, and etc has happened to me a lot in the past. I've also gotten the "DIHL" plenty
of times...so, I'd say I'm fairly good-looking and been told it. Though, I am thin, and currently bulking/lifting.
I'd been out of the game lately and missing out on the things mentioned above (I just haven't seen them?
I've moved to a new town also, so that's part of it). In other words, I hadn't been approaching women like I used
to...but I am doing so again, and I'm noticing those things slowly again. Possibly because I wasn't as
relaxed/confidence the past few months...and now I am again.
Anyhow, I also have reason to believe my natural
pheremone levels are high. I take ZMA each night, take fenugreek daily, eat/sleep well, lift, haven't masturbated
in 40 days (for self-discipline), and shower less than I used to.
The reason I'm convinced pheremones
exist...
Especially on days when I haven't showered, I notice more of this 'magnetism' or flirtatiousness from
girls. On one occasion last weekend, I hadn't showered in a week and I literally felt like a magnet, it was
unbelievable..and weird (though lasted only a few hrs). I've also noticed times I find myself being attracted to a
woman and I don't know why...because she's not necessarily physically appealing, but I am horny around her. So
there's gotta be some underlying chemicals in our nature...
Perhaps what I'm expecting from adding synthetic
pheremones is an increase in the signals I already receive from women. I don't want/need anything outrageous...I'm
just doing this for fun to see what's possible. This is the thread where I'll do all my
"experimenting."
<forget about experiment #1 ...as I just got my order in the mail; and btw, respect to Bruce for
requiring a signature for the delivery>
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girl: ohh what kind of
cologne do you wear?
you: ball sweat.........
girl: .....................
Yeah, I'veOriginally Posted by slickracer
decided to ditch that "experiment," as it's really too much of a bother.
I do want to note however, that I
don't and continue to refrain from showering daily. I initially noted that I see certain "magnetism" when I don't
shower as often...and another reason is because it's simply more practical to shower on days that I hit the gym,
rather than every day. And I don't stink by the way.
So, on Wed/Thurs/Friday I'll be trying out some SOE and
perhaps some AE one of those days...I'll report back with results.
yeah i think thats a better
way of going at it. then spreading ball juice all over your face.
also if you don't take shower atleast give
your self a rinse down wiht jsut water.
okay, I won't take it too far.Originally Posted by slickracer
I just used some
SOE today. Well, I'd received my package on Saturday but missed the delivery so I picked it up at the post office
this afternoon.
I'd ordered SOE, NPA, and AE, and the freebie gel packs (samples).
I rolled on some SOE.
The scent of SOE is so weak, I barely smell a thing. I just walked around my apartment...and I'm a pretty social
guy with everyone, so I'm not sure how SOE will effect me if at all. My roommates were surprisingly nonsocial
actually...though I think it's because they were pissed about the dirty dishes and rotten food I left sitting
around, lol, my bad. But I guess I'll be using it more to gauge overall chattiness of people around me.
The
only extended exposure I had was with my Dad...who I usually talk a lot with anyway. We had some lengthy
conversation, but I'd say that's normal.
I'll be trying it more tomorrow again. I've read somewhere that
applying a cover cologne can extend/intensify the effect...?
I'll report back soon.
I tried some SOE today, and
perhaps I used too much.
I rolled on my chest, neck, arms, wrists, behind my ears, and my cheeks. Then I sprayed
some pherlure (which I only use as a cover) on top.
Pherlure is crap, and I don't think using a cover with SOE
works well...at least not with Pherlure.
I actually re-applied once or twice (every 4hrs)...and it seems the peak
of the 'effect' is about 30min-1hr after applying it, when you can't smell it any more.
I noticed a few
glances during the day but nothing out of the ordinary. My boss seemed just as talkative as normal, and there was a
guy at the sandwich shop that randomly started talking to me...which happens on occasion anyway. I was extremely
tired and feeling like shit today just from stress, so that's a variable.
I also need to take a shower today,
and shave, either of which I haven't done in a few days, lol.
throw the pherlure in the
rubbish, a product just shouldnt make you this stressed! its not fair!
yeah...I think it wasOriginally Posted by bronzie
two things.
1) I probably used too much SOE...I think I noticed the girl at work rub her nose while I was closer
to her. And if it means anything, people have been more social with me after the time I'd figured the stuff rubbed
off.
2) Overall, I was more social and had people be friendlier with me once the pherlure scent had rubbed off.
either way I just emailed pherlure to see how I can ship their garbage back to them. I recently bought some
Armani Black Code, Gucci Envy, and Coolwater on ebay...should be getting them soon (and my Liquid Trust froim
LS!)
I'll be trying (a little) SOE again tonightOriginally Posted by slickracer
when I go study at the library. And I'll test AE tomorrow. I definitely get what you guys are saying now though,
about less being more!
thanks for the tips/avice.
I put on 2-3 drops of AE this
morning. 1 rubbed on my neck, 1 between my wrists, and .5 on my wrists that I rubbed behind the back of my ears. I
also sprayed 1 spray of my Tuscany cologne on my shirt.
Here's what I noticed today (just observations,
perhaps coincidence, who knows):
In morning class, I sat in the back of the class, behind a girl. As the
class filled up, a girl sat to my right and left. Later, the girl to my right asked me for a pencil.
Later in
the same class, for a little while in lecture, it seemed my prof. (a guy) had his eyes glued on me. Then after that
he barely made eyecontact with me...weird.
edit: I didn't mention this earlier, but after reading some body
language posts and searching the forum more, I think it's worth mentioning...when I was in lecture, the girl
sitting in front of me fidgeted a ton with her ear, and kept turning to her left almost to look back at me while
playing with her ear. Damn, now thinking back on it, it was surely a hit.
Nothing to write home about at
work.
Then on one bus ride, the female bus driver (who I've talked to a little before), was quite chatty. And
she is my mother's age probably, but I noticed her getting easily distracted...she actually stepped on the gas
while at a red light (though very briefly and realized her mistake).
On the other bus, I was sitting in a
2-seater by the window. As the bus stopped to let a crowd of people on, I noticed one damn hot girl, a 9, stood out
from the rest. She walked on the bus and was about to pass me almost, and nearly hesitated, but then sat beside me.
Odd, because there were plenty of empty seats further in the back. Then, when I was looking out the window to my
right, then turned slightly to my left, I nearly hit my face into hers! She was leaning into my neck pretty visibly
and I think a few others on the bus also may have noticed this. She was totally in my personal space. A hit maybe?
...but at 2pm (I applied at 8am)?
I'm a believer...if that was attributable to mones. I figure you guys are
right...they make girls who are already attracted to you more turned on, not just random girls.
Other things
I noticed:
SOE worked for me last night, at least, I got some odd glances from guys/girls in the
library.
I noticed AE makes me a little edgy. I usually don't get "nervous" much. Also, it has a strong smell
but is tough to spread on the skin. I just now tried putting water on myself then applying the mones...works much
better.
Anyway, I'll keep testing and updating. So far so good, nothing spectacular, but I'm liking it.
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I don't know if anyone
here remembers me, but I was very successful with my targets using AE while at work, younger men seemed very aroused
and made specific advances, although I prefer to select targets myself and then see what happens.
I remember you very well!
Glad to see you back.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
interesting. Yeah, I definitely think AE is a great product.Originally Posted by FullTiltRedhead
So...today I tried AE + SOE, but I
didn't notice much. Of course, it should be noted that I go to work in the morning and have little to no human
interaction for several hours, so it's tough to really say if the mones worked because my interactions are mostly
with a pc.
I did the AE a bit different though, applying water first to my skin, then rubbing around the AE.
Bad idea, because once I sweat it rubbed away quickly.
The only reaction I got was in the morning (before I
sweat most of the mones off) from a woman, probably in her mid 20s, who was standing at the corner of a street. I
was walking in the direction towards her and made eye contact and we maintained it for about 2 seconds (long enough
to seem like she was going to say something?), then she looked down and smiled. I could have and should have
approached that one.
Overall, I don't think I'll do SOE + AE again. I think AE does a fine job by itself. I
think for me, AE is best when used little of...for me, 2-3 drops works best, and on my neck. And no more rubbing it
in with water, that's a waste.
Tomorrow I'll try a DD1 mix (SOE + NPA)...it's so talked about here I can't
help but try it. I'm going to go downtown for the day to study etc...so I'll be around more people than
usual.
By the way, today I wasn't as edgy with AE, but still nervous, and I also noticed that I get irritated
easily...as in, I feel like a bad-ass over the smallest things. I'm usually quite laid back. edit: perhaps I
OD'd this time...I know I used around 4-5 drops. It also seemed the effectiveness dropped, and perhaps it got
people around me a bit nervous.
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I tried mixing SOE+NPA today.
I must have used the wrong portions.
I put my index finger on top of the NPA hole and turned it upside down then
right side up again...to make 1 dab.
I figured it wasn't enough, so I used 3 of those.
Then I applied what I
had left of an SOE gel pack...probably 1/6 of 1 pack. Then I also applied 4-5 dabs of SOE (took the roller off)
I
figure I either OD'd on NPA or on SOE, or both, or got the proportions wrong.
How the heck do you do 7:3 without
using at least 3 drops of NPA? Or pre-mixing in an atomizer or bottle of some sort?
Anyway, I went out to eat
with a friend at a really crowded cafe...I noticed nothing. I made a joke with the cashier, and she laughed (was
receptive), but that could have just been from the SOE.
When we got back about an hour later, I dabbed 2-3 drops
of AE (neck, wrists, and behind ears)
First off, I'm noticing I can't smell the AE as much as before.
I
went to a study lounge to study. Again, not much reaction from the girls there. However, when I went to get some
snacks the vending machine wasn't working, so I asked a few of the girls standing there if they knew how to work
it. They seemed quite friendly and took my dollar bill and tried to put it in the machine for me. I'd say that
could also be the SOE at work. (didn't seem flirtatious enough to be AE related)
When I first applied the
NPA...all I could smell is the alcohol. It didn't make me nervous either like the way AE does.
I might try DD1
again, but I guess it's a tough one to pinpoint. I may also try NPA alone with a cover scent.
So far, I am by
far most satisfied with AE. I've had the most hits with it.
^ I was just searching the
forums now for SOE/NPA reports...and I noticed that I did something different?
I applied the NPA first, then put
the SOE on top of those application spots. Not sure if this makes a difference? I won't put SOE directly on the
NPA next time.
Or maybe you sheI made a joke with the
cashier, and she laughed (was receptive), but that could have just been from the SOE.
thought you or what you said were funny.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
i think that AE is made to
give off the badass vibe and SOE is made to give off the friendlly vibe. so when I use them togeater, they seem to
cancle eachother out. (its not just what kind of mones are in it, its a science of the ratios of the mones that give
its different vibes.)
if you like how you got hits from AE and you can play along with the badass vibe,
i
think that you should try AE+NPA. first what i do is i dap the NPA 2x with out the dropertop. and take 2 drops of AE
and cover each of the NPA spots.
and don't worry oding (you must try it) , i have gotten more approaches from
girls with this then other mixes. and i just got my LT so im thinking about useing this mix with LT.
LOL.Originally Posted by Gegogi
Yeah, you're probably right. Perhaps I've been
attributing too much to the mones lately.
One thing I did notice though, is that it was supposedly cold in the
restaurant, and my friend was freezing. A few of the guys who walked in were also very cold, shivering. But I was
warm...I'm usually the first one to say I'm cold, and get jittery, but I didn't feel that way at all. I searched
some old threads and apparently 'heat' is a common reaction with NPA...that's sweet.
I just noticed your response. That's interesting what you say about SOE and AEOriginally Posted by slickracer
cancelling...
Thanks...it seems so far you've been on spot about the AE thing, so I'll try that mix you
suggested. By the way, do you have any particular application spots that you recommend?
Sweet, yeah, I should be
receiving my LT by Monday hopefully. Let us know how your experiences turn out.
AE was the first product i
ever tried and is still my main product i use so i have alot of exp with AE.
normally i put half of the mones on
my neck ( back of the neck seems to be better at getting hits then front of the neck, i think its cause its hotter
back then but i put it on the front of my neck cause i like to smell the mones my self. ) and the other half of the
mones on my wrists cause when you are talking and useing hand motions and gusters you are actually fanning the mones
everywhere.
Okay, thanks. I love the smell of AE also (on front of theOriginally Posted by slickracer
neck)...but I guess back I'll try back of the neck then.
Oh, and I was also wondering, are you also one of those
people like me who cannot smell the -none in NPA?
its kind of weird with me
because, sometimes i can smell it sometiems i can't so i don't know how that goes. but when i do smell it tho i
know that im smelling it.
my sence of smell varies day by day.
Uh...I tried the suggested 2x
NPA and 2x AE over the same application spots.
First off, when I was doing this, I spilled 2/3 of my NPA bottle!
And it's the 10ml! Most of it spilled on my right hand, which I washed right away with soap. But I can still smell
the alcohol on my fingers (4.5hrs later!)
Second, when I was walking to go study, it was hot and sunny outside.
So hot that I was sweating quite a bit. Perhaps that rubbed off the mones. I've noticed sweat really hasn't been
helping me lately. I'm going to read more about sweat problems.
When I finally got to the library I didn't
notice anything out of the ordinary. Perhaps the only thing unusual was a girl who suddenly covered her nose and
mouth as I was passing by. Then after I sat down I think I heard her and her friends say something like "that guy
stinks" ...I'm assuming somewhat because I couldn't make out the words exactly. They left shortly after bursting
into laughter and saying a lot of words that started with "s" that I couldn't quite make out over the loud fan.
I'm pretty sure I OD'd.
The scent of the AE began to wear off, and all I could smell was the alcohol. When I
ate my sandwich I tasted the alcohol smell.
I was just so damn hot, and it was hot in the library...
...if
I ever try NPA at all again, I'll use it at night or when it's cooler outside. I don't think I got the badass
vibe at all either. AE is by far my favorite now, I'll stick to it.
Btw, Slickracer, what age range of girls
are you targetting? How old are you, what's your build, etc?
ohhh man that suck for you.
don't feel bad tho almost everyone here has spilled mones before. i know i did like 3 tiems. from what i read, you
probelly od. might have ether splashed some on your cloth or you didn't use anti-becterial soap. or its just not
the mix for you. (but im pretty sure you didn't get the 2x2 ratio so you should try that again)
alittle bit
about myself. im burmess. dosn't produce alot of nones but produce lots of rones. im 19 and with AE i seem to get
lots of respect from older women and have a blast teaseing younger girls. i know how to deal with most girls so i
can pretty much get any age of girls. yesterday i was haveing a blast with this girl until i found out she was 15
haha.....
you sound like you gave up on NPA already. just because of one little mishap don't let that
discourage you because if you ever learn how to use none products you'll have so much fun.
mabey you should
try NPA all by it self before trying to mix it first to see what your limits are.
other then that you should try
that mix again, but if you don't want to go that heavy with Nones again, use some of the eadge you got from the
sample package and put ae over the eadge.
oh i'll tell you how i apply this mix, first i take the NPA bottle
and close the opening with my wrist (left one) and dap it, then rub it on the other wrist. then dap it on my thumb
and split it with my pointing finger then rub it down both sides of my adam apple. for the ae i drop one drop on my
wrist then rub wrists togeater then do another drop on my fingers and go over the spot that i applied the NPA on the
neck. (i sometiems sub NPA with the eadge but i mainly use NPA in this mix.)
oh i hope you are not doing the not
showering thing while useing mones cause i put mones on 15 mins after takeing a shower. and use anti-bectial soap
cause that gets rid of everything off your skin where regular sope leaves stuff behind.
thanks for
giving info about yourself...i'm glad to be getting advice from you since you are closer to my age than most of the
members on this board. LOL...yeah, girls these days sometimes you can't tell how old they are.
yeah, I
definitely got a bit discouraged after today.
...crap! I didn't showerOriginally Posted by slickracer
today. No, I'm not doing the not-showering thing any more, I just forgot to shower this morning.
I also read
this thread recently:
http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/sho
wthread.php?t=8114&highlight=npa+sweat
...it's about "pheremone build-up" ...so you're on point about the
anti-bacterial soap thing. I haven't used anti-bacterial soap...just regular. And perhaps that's why I haven't
had good hits since that one day that I first tried AE...I've probably been OD'ing since then because of not using
anti-bacterial soap, the mones have stayed on my skin.
Anyway, just about a few hours ago, probably when the
mones were getting weaker, I noticed girls looking at me like they were scared. It almost seemed like girls
distanced themselves from me, and this one cute girl at the pizza place made eyecontact with me a few times but
seemed nearly terrified...i didn't know what to think of it.
I do have some anti-bacterial sanitizer lotion that
supposedly "kills 99.9% of germs in 15 seconds or less" ...so I'll rub that all over myself and then take a shower.
It should do the trick. I'll be sure to get some anti-bacterial soap soon also. good
tip.
thanks again for thoroughly explaining the mix.Originally Posted by slickracer
...for now I'll try the
anti-bacterial thing tomorrow then a shower, then I'll try the mix again. I'm going to keep trying until I get it
right...I'm confident that if it works for you, it will work for me.
by the way, one last
question...just curious how long the mix lasts for you? do you re-apply, or does it last all day? otherwise I guess
I'll see for myself.
i never re-apply mones untill
i take a shower. that has always been my rule. so pretty much i take a shower when i wake up and put mones on and im
done for the day. but if i want to change what im waering i wash my app points first then put mones back on. this is
just my rule tho, plus i never experiamented with re-applying so i don't know anything about it, and i don't plan
to cuase im happy with my system, and it works for me.
the only thing i have re applyed with is LT, but thats
only when im working tho. oh by the way i like LT.
oh hey by the way...... you should def take showers if you
are going to be useing mones. if you think about it most poeple don't do that to keep thier natural mones and such
but they take time to built up but now you are useing artifitial mones at optimal dosage the min you put them on.
and after awhile they do stink. espetially if you put them in one spot.
Hey, you!Originally Posted by FullTiltRedhead
Welcome back!
- Bass
somewhere between amused and obsessed...
I have only one thing to say
about this mix,
A M A Z I N G !
I used my antibacterial lotion this morning, rubbed it all over my body, and
it stung too! Then I took a shower with regular soap (unscented), and lathered my skin well.
I did the 2xNPA and
2xAE just as you rec'd. Except, a drop of AE fell on my desk, and I dabbed my fingers in it and used it to rub
behind my ears. So, technically, I had the mix down, plus 1 extra drop of AE behind my ears (I just didn't want to
waste it). Anyway, it seems like everywhere I went today, girls would look at me and smile...I have to say, it was
quite an ego-trip.
So, here's what happened:
-in the morning (probably 20min after applying) went to the
sandwich shop as usual to buy my lunch. first off, when I walked in, one of the girls just locked eyes with me
(about 12 feet away) and said she'd take my order. and another guy, who is usually very indifferent to me, but who
I've talked to before, greeted me. he's never said anything to me unless i initiate. anyway, as the girl was
making my sandwich, i asked her what music was playing in the background. she blushed and smiled a lot as we chatted
briefly.
-I went to sit and wait for the bus. As people passed by...1 or 2 girls looked and smiled
briefly.
-Then I went to go to the restroom by the coffee shop. When I turned the corner I noticed a hot
blonde girl with her eyes literally so wide, it looked like she was a walking zombie. If this is what a DIHL is,
then I certainly have never had this in the past. I'm just not positive, because is there like a radius of
pheremones that hit her before I saw her around corner? Perhaps, because when I saw her, she just stared straight
at me, without blinking. I looked away cause it was just weird. When I looked back, her eyes slowly
drifted off me and straight ahead...itt also seemed like she'd been walking but slowed down as I neared. Whatever
it was, it was surely out of the ordinary (very weird). It makes me wonder though, when that happens, do they get
extremely horny to the point where they are frozen? What exactly is going on in their minds that causes them to just
freeze up?
-On the bus, the older female bus driver, turned around to make extended eye contact with me. I think
it's significant because the only other time it's happened is when I had that great day with AE. Other than these
2 times, she's never turned to look me in the face that way.
-At Starbucks, an older lady, probably in her 60s,
walked by me, fairly close and and nearly stared as she walked past. When I looked in her direction she smiled wide
and looked down. Gosh. The cashiers were rather flirty there also.
-Then on the bus, I noticed a girl reading and
approached her. She made a lot of eye contact, but I guess for the most part she was busy with studying and didn't
want to be bothered, so I let the conversation die. Later, still on the bus, a cute girl got on, sitting in the very
front. She looked back and me, held eye contact and smiled. Then she started to fiddle with her pen, and I noticed
her looking back at me a few more times after that, though I didn't really make eye contact with her. (she was
about 8ft away).
Well, that's about it. I think there were more girls who looked and smiled, but I don't
remember all of it. Thank you very much slickracer for this killer combo! NPA works, I'm a believer!
thatOriginally Posted by slickracer
sounds reasonable. Yeah, after the reactions I got today, I've definitely learned the importance of showering, for
sure. If anything, that's probably why I have ever had any inconsistent results.
Hygiene is very important for
us pheremone users, you're right.
thanks again.
btw, as for the effects on myself, I felt very confident
today. I mean, aside from my normal self, I was nearly delusionally confident. I think my ego got quite a boost
too, so that's part of it.
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im glad you like it, i been
useing this mix for about 3-4 months now. i think that AE and NPA goes really well at giveing off the 'badass'
vibe i talked about. i have tried 3 npa + 2 ae before (best time i had at the mall, but i havn't tried it at that
ratio again sence i don't need that type of attention all the time or i'll never get anything done, you probelly
knows what im talking about from what you saw today right? ) but i have never tried 2 npa +3 ae sence when i first
started useing ae i found that 3 drops of ae sometiems got me in debates with femanist girls (even tho its not an
argument, i always had power strugles with this famanist girl that i had a crush on so i never used ae over 2 drops.
but i think i just migh try that 2:3 ratio tomorrow)
because is there like a radius of pheremones that
hit her before I saw her around corner?yes, this mix dose give me alot of confident too, and the confident seems tobtw, as for the effects on myself, I felt very confident
today. I mean, aside from my normal self, I was nearly delusionally confident. I think my ego got quite a boost too,
so that's part of it.
escalate after each smile and eye contact dosn't it? i think even if the girls are out of the effective radius, i
think they can see or sence the confident on you and draws thier attention in. thats the only thing i can think of
because i have gotten looks and smiles as soon as i walk into a room and sometiems things don't make sence at
all.
do you want to know what goes really good with this mix? ............................ ok this migh take
alittle time to master but, when you do you'll be even mroe amazed, learn to not look away when you see girls
looking at you and hold your EC. let the tention built up and right before you feel like she is about to look away,
WINK. it'll take some time to learn when to wink when holding the EC but after awhile you'll feel it. another
thing, learn how to flirt with your eyes. it'll save you so much efforts.
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