thanks for the tips,

maxo.

I totally know what your friend has been through...I liked this one particular girl all 4 years of high

school...until I finally snapped out of it at the end of senior year after realizing most of my problems had root in

her.

as for learning how to flirt, i've listened/watched David DeAngelo's 6 part Double Your Dating

series, so I know what you mean by not being a wuss/pussy and all that "romantic" shit (which only lands you on the

"he's such a nice friend" ladder). any ideas on where I can find some real flirting advice online? all the sites

that pop up on google talk about saying how she's so beautiful...etc etc. aka: the junk wussies use.