A little off topic

[Gmoney]

Is the DeAngelo

material really all it's cracked up to be? I've read so so so many crappy reviews of his stuff, everything from

"insecure wanna be trying to make a buck off sucker readers" to "shallow asshole who'd never make it past week 2 in

a relationship".

Some reveiws from people that share at least mones with me would be appreciated. What should I

expect to get from it? What should I not expect to get from it? I'm all for self improvement if it's educational

and something I can work into my own personality. I refuse to adopt stupid tricks just to lie my way into getting

laid. Feed back is appreciated.

[idesign]

Very good question Gmoney, and

I'm sure there are different opinions here. It all depends on your goals: to get laid immediately, or to develop

some kind of meaningful relationship beyond one night.

I just posted something relating to this in another

thread. You're wise to want to remain true to yourself.

You might take the time to read through the current

"Alpha Male" thread in the Open Discussion section. A lot of it is off-topic to your specific question, but it will

give you some insight relating to various qualities a man can develop if he wants to be attractive not only women,

but people in general.

Self improvement is a much longer and more difficult path than developing "game". Of

course the results are richer and much more comprehensive in terms of who you become.

IMHO, it's better to

widen your interests and knowledge. Read a lot and do a lot. And, an inquisitive nature is very attractive.

People like people who are interested in what they're interested in. And the more interesting you are, the more

interest you'll attract.

I don't want to diss anyone's ideas or goals. Its just my view and experience.

[Blacky Chan]

Some of the material from

the seduction types is dead on and some isnt. One of the things that isn't stressed too often is that you've got

to be true to yourself. You can only act like a club freak, sex god, big shot or whatever for so long before you

natually return to true self.

PS. Most of the PDF's can be found for free

[idesign]

That's a good point BC. You

can get some very good pointers from the "game" guys. We make such stupid mistakes sometimes, and good advice is

invaluable.

[Gmoney]

Taht's really all I'm looking

for. Tips on psychological stuff, basically how not to scare girls off before they get to know me, or how to get

them to the point where they have the chance to get to know me. Pheromones help alot for that, but I'm sure some

of that material will help as well.

[Blacky Chan]

Taht's really all I'm looking for. Tips on psychological stuff, basically how not to scare

girls off before they get to know me, or how to get them to the point where they have the chance to get to know me.

Pheromones help alot for that, but I'm sure some of that material will help as well.

Currently I'm

listening to an audiobook. After listening to the first chapters i could actually see some mistakes I've made. The

last couple of times I went out with friends I just observed. Between body language , openers and disqualification

it's like looking at a whole different world. I watched a buddy lose a girl that approached him in less than 10

minutes. He couldn't understand what went wrong. A while ago I wouldn't have known why but now its obvious.