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    Default Chikara & Perception

    What's the

    advantage of Chikara over the other L-S products - does it generate hits in a different way from the others? (I know

    the selling points of TE/m, AE/m, SOE).

    Also, Perception doesn't seem to be mentioned very much & is cheaper.

    Its ratios of 'mones seems good & it had some good reviews in the L-S web site buying section but what are

    peoples' real views on it. Thanks.

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    Some people cannot use things

    like TE/NPA. Chikara is a little more sexual than SoE (according to common perceptions), contains 7 mones and is a

    pretty good product. It is someplace between A7 and SoE. I like it as well as SoE and do not get the -none OD from

    it like I do Primal or TE.

    Perception is pretty low in pheromone concentration and many people get no results

    with it at all. It does do a good job as an extender when you apply it over other mones. They disperse slowly and

    stay around a lot longer.
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    Gee, am I the only person left in

    the world that actually likes Perception?

    I will say, though, that I only get results with it if I use a full

    gel pack, but to me that makes sense. My "effective" dose range with other products seems to be 30mcg None and 40mcg

    Nol.

    With a full gel pack of Perception I hit my Nol level and get 20mcg of None and Rone...

    I wore it to

    my work Christmas Party just last Friday and had two very cute waitresses be very attentive.

    I can't

    comment on Chikara, though, as I haven't used it enough to judge.

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    Different products affect different

    people (both wearer and targets) in different ways.

    I know I get more of an "upbeat" interaction with at least

    one of my primary "test subject" friends when I wear Chikara (more arm hits, more conversation, more smiles, more

    interaction).

    Perception on the other hand has given me next to nothing except for *possibly* a reaction from a

    middle aged female clerk while I was wearing a full gel-pack. She asked if the woman friend I as with was my mother.

    Granted friend was an older woman, but she was only about *5 years* older than I. It's possible the pheromone mix

    of Perception was creating a more "youthful" vibe (and if you will excuse the semi-intentional play on words) her

    "perception" of me as being a fair amount younger than I am. So it's possible that Perception may serve some of us

    older guys who are seeking to "appear" younger and a bit more "virile" to women.


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    I wanted to like Perception, but

    it never worked for me. I only tried the gel packs since they came free, but I was let down. I did use them only

    when I was pretty new to pheromones so that might have affected the testing, but having so many other choices,

    perception remains at the bottom of my list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    Some people cannot use things like TE/NPA. Chikara is a little more sexual than SoE

    (according to common perceptions), contains 7 mones and is a pretty good product. It is someplace between A7 and

    SoE. I like it as well as SoE and do not get the -none OD from it like I do Primal or TE.

    Perception is pretty

    low in pheromone concentration and many people get no results with it at all. It does do a good job as an extender

    when you apply it over other mones. They disperse slowly and stay around a lot longer.
    You mean A7 is

    more sexual than Chikara?

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    A7 is much heavier in

    androsteNone than Chikara, and contains a bit of Rone. Chikara is steered and buffered with a lot of "secret"

    stuff, and is more social.


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    Default Perception + ?

    Interesting

    I'm a complete newbie and was wondering if upping the dosage of Perception would help -- using

    a whole gel pack or even more instead of 1/2? Any dangers to this?

    What about combining with

    TE?

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by svpppljutf View Post
    Interesting

    I'm a complete newbie and was wondering if upping the dosage of

    Perception would help -- using a whole gel pack or even more instead of 1/2? Any dangers to this?

    What about

    combining with TE?

    Thank you
    The only time I even think I got a reaction/response when using

    Perception gels was after I tried an entire packet. Worth a try.

    Perception already has androstenone in it, so

    adding more in the form of The Edge *may* cause an OD, but then again given the poor response I've gotten with

    Percerption, it may help...

    If nothing else, applying Perception OVER TE will help the TE last longer. The

    "extender" part of the Perception carrier does seem to work okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svpppljutf View Post
    Interesting

    I'm a complete newbie and was wondering if upping the dosage of

    Perception would help -- using a whole gel pack or even more instead of 1/2? Any dangers to this?

    What about

    combining with TE?

    Thank you
    A whole gel pkt would give you 20 mcg of

    Androstenone, which could be on the OD side for some users, especially young

    guys.

    I would say give the 1/2 pkt a run for awhile,

    before proceeding to the whole pkt.

    If you notice that

    the 1/2 pack is a little none heavy for the young girls then try adding 1/2 pkt SOE for that

    date.
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