Perfuming Basics

[DrSmellThis]

The warm fuzzies are

flowin again!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[bjf]

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The warm fuzzies are flowin again!!!

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Well now I know

why you are back! I still miss the old days, when you were the only one to paragraph a monsterous post.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Something abut fibboucini numbers ?

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[BigBear]

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The warm

fuzzies are flowin again!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Well now I know why you are back! I still miss the old days, when you were the only one to

paragraph a monsterous post. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Something abut fibboucini numbers ?

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Hmmm is there

love in the air bjf? &lt;gg&gt;

Just teasin, I like Cardamon to.

Drsmell he\'s right, you\'re posts ARE

terrif!
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------BigBadBear

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[DrSmellThis]

Thanks! I\'m glad you

guys find \'em useful.

[DrSmellThis]

Time for

another formula for you enterprising souls! Recipes such as this and some of the others here don\'t just smell

nice, but also teach basic skills essential for learning the art of perfuming. Ambergris, which comes from whale

bellies, is one of the most valued and expensive substances in all of perfumery. Real ambergris, a celebrated

aphrodisiac, is too expensive for most pocketbooks, and some of it is collected through \"politically incorrect\"

means. So here is my simple but classic \"fake ambergris\" recipe that uses real EO\'s. There are countless

varieties of amber used in perfumery, but this recipe contains quite a bit of implicit, basic information. This is

an ideal cover scent mix for men or women, and can be worn everywhere, as a sexy (of course) perfume that absolutely

will not offend anyone. It gives the psychological effect of making the user and those surrounding feel safe,

amorous, and comfortable. Try it and see, said the blind man. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] I

am providing three versions, which turn on whether one uses the optional ingredients, which are intended to more

closely mimic the fishy, musky aspects of real ambergris. I gahr-on-tee, y\'all will lahk it -- no foolin\':

(translation provided for those who speak \"SRH-bonics\")

Ambergris Alert!

7 benzoin
1

vanilla EO (Oshadi\'s works very well here)
1 labdanum (very cheap at Liberty currently)
1 sandalwood
1

oak moss (Optional)
1 ambrette seed (Optional. Pricey. Best source is Liberty, which ain\'t so bad, but please

avoid the inferior CO2 version)
1 balsam peru
1 cardamom, 20:1 dilute (Happy, Elana?

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40 jojoba

Mix the oils, and let them mature for

three days, away from light, in a sealed glass container. At the end of the three days, add the jojoba oil and mix

thoroughly. Let this mix mature another three days, and enjoy! -- DST

[Elana]

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Ambergris Alert!

7 benzoin
1 vanilla EO

(Oshadi\'s works very well here)
1 labdanum (very cheap at Liberty currently)
1 sandalwood
1 oak moss

(Optional)
1 ambrette seed (Optional. Pricey. Best source is Liberty, which ain\'t so bad, but please avoid the

inferior CO2 version)
1 balsam peru
1 cardamom, 20:1 dilute (Happy, Elana? )
40 jojoba


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Nice! Yes, I am happy. Thank you.

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I haven\'t seen much of anything with cardamom in it.

[Elana]

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1 ambrette seed

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Dumb question #626

Does this have anything to do with Amber?

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Same plant maybe?

[Sexyredhead]

Wuhl

heck! If\'n it\'s good enuff fer them big ol\' fishbellies, it\'s dang-sure good enuff fer me!

I may

have to use some of my beer money stash to get me some of them \'gredients.

[Sagacious1420]

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1 ambrette seed

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Dumb

question #626

Does this have anything to do with Amber? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Same

plant maybe?

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[Sagacious1420]

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Wuhl heck! If\'n it\'s good enuff fer them big

ol\' fishbellies, it\'s dang-sure good enuff fer me!

I may have to use some of my beer money stash to get me

some of them \'gredients.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Sacrilege!

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[DrSmellThis]

Ambrette

has a musky scent that is somewhat ambery. So that is the connection, and the reason I included it.

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[DrSmellThis]

Well, I

don\'t know about sacrificing beer money, though Lent is just around the corner, but I expect some of you to get

busy with this formula! I almost wanted to keep it secret, as most perfumers do with their amber recipes(!), since

it is so often used in their perfumes and so basic to their art. The equivalent would be a professional Indian chef

giving away a curry recipe. But I was feeling generous, with all the warm fuzzies. Anyway, I\'ve never made amber

the same way twice, since I stubbornly cling to my own creativity, rebelling against myself. Tomorrow I\'ll just

disown the formula. So I figured, \"what the hell\"! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[Sexyredhead]

What could one

substitute for the following:

May Chang--lemon?

yarrow--German

chamomile?

tanecetum--chamomile?


that is similar in scent?

[DrSmellThis]

May Chang, or litsea,

is one of my favorite citrus notes, for when you want your citrus note to extend down into the middle ranges. A

mixture of lemon and lemongrass would be a good substitute, but litsea is very useful in perfuming and not that

expensive. Yarrow is a close relative of chamomile (both contain lots of azulene), and so you could try substituting

Roman or German chamomile, depending on what you\'re going for. If you use yarrow, English yarrow is preferred.

Tanecetum is just the Latin name for Morrocan chamomile, so that is what you\'d look for.

As usual, with such

things you just have to smell them all carefully, using your imagination, and make up your own mind.



This is my 2000th post, BTW, so we\'ll see what strange nickname I get this time!

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[franki]

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This is my 2000th post, BTW, so we\'ll see what strange nickname

I get this time! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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Your nickname doesn\'t change automatically anymore, because I once edited it...



Welcome to the Club of 2000, btw! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[Sexyredhead]

Thanks.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Since I\'ve never smelled any of those three EO\'s

personally, I wasn\'t sure what would make a good substitute. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[DrSmellThis]

So out of curiosity,

why were you asking?

Thanks, Oh Unmoderated One.

[Sexyredhead]

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So out of curiosity, why were you asking?



Thanks, Oh Unmoderated One.

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I asked because I found a few EO

blends that call for them that I want to play around with a bit to figure out the recipe so I can make my own

personalized version. It looks as if the ingredients were chosen partly because of the scent and partly because of

the aromatherapy qualities. I don\'t have those three EO\'s, have never needed them, and I won\'t have a

chance to get them for a while even if I decide I must have them, but in the meantime I want to make the mix. If I

want the scent to be as similar as possible, it only makes sense to see what is comparable scent-wise, then I can

figure out what\'s close in AT properties.

[DrSmellThis]

Good thinking, SRH.

[DrSmellThis]

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Oshadi has excellent vanilla. An easy thing to do is

also buy their vetiver while you\'re at it (yum) and mix the two, which I\'ve done before to lots of

compliments. It smells really good on a woman, btw. Vanilla by itself is too foody, IMO, but if you do it this way

you might be pleased.

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[nonscents]

OK, I

bought the makings of Randy Pants and some other stuff.

I should have figured that I wouldn\'t like bitter

orange. I can\'t stand any kind of food with citrus zest, like fruit cake. That bitter orange reminds me of it.

I\'ll have to redo randy pants sans bitter orange.

I bought some frankincense with my essential oil order.

Remember when people were posting about Good and Plenty being the sexiest smell? (Note to people unfamiliar with USA

trivia: Good &amp; Plenty is a candy with a kind of licorice flavor.) Frankincense, to me, has a great aroma with

some licorice notes. Does DrSmellThis or anyone else have any suggestions for how to use, other than straight? I

think that it\'s a great smell. BTW, I ordered my stuff from Mountain Rose, which I found from Sagacious1420\'s

link. Thanks.

[DrSmellThis]

Frankincense smells woody/spicy, so it goes well with all wood and spice related things, including licorice smells

(anise).

Sorry you didn\'t like the bitter orange, but that\'s what the other versions of the formula

are for. I\'m not a huge citrus guy either, but BO is one of the least annoying citrus smells to me. It\'s a bit

more masculine, as is lime.

Frankincense goes well with orange, BTW; as well as jasmine. Then there\'s

myrrh, of course.

[DrSmellThis]

<font color=\"brown\"> Since y\'all are my homies in here, I am picking this thread, my

scentimental favorite, [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] to let everybody know that I\'ve made a

new perfume, but not just a perfume; and that it will now be available at love-scent!! My new cologne,

Pheros, will be available within the week.

I think it will be a very good thing, and will fill

a niche that has needed filling since this whole pheromone thing started. I have been working on it for 15 months or

so, and am very excited about it; as it gives me a chance to put into practice many of the things I\'ve been

talking about since I came to l-s! I\'ll give much more information soon.

Those of you who want to learn

some more advanced info about perfuming may want to engage in the discussion about the product. \"Case studies\"

are a more advanced way to learn in many fields. So I\'m going to be providing some intermediate information about

perfuming, and using Pheros to illustrate some points. And while the purpose of discussing Pheros in the

first place is in part marketing-related, I will have fun making the content of my discussions educational. The

creation of the perfume and all that was involved seems like an interesting story. I\'ll start a new thread for

that, but will continue to post basic information about perfuming here, as usual.

Thanks to everybody who has

participated in this fun thread!</font>

[Sagacious1420]

Wow! I never tought that I\'d ever experience an infomercial on the L-S forum. I feel so special

right now... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[franki]

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Wow! I never tought that I\'d ever experience an

infomercial on the L-S forum. I feel so special right now... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]



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The whole forum is an infomercial for pheromones.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Icarus]

[b]BUY NOW!!! LIMITED TIME OFFER!!!

[Elana]

Congrats on your baby, DST. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Yes, let\'s keep this thread

going.

[Pancho1188]

DST:

If you need a ridiculously silly script for your product\'s sales pitch, you know who to ask

to make it... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] *Thinks about it for a moment* On second thought,

maybe not... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[DrSmellThis]

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BUY NOW!!! LIMITED TIME OFFER!!!



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Brilliant, ya boy ya! You and Pancho get marketing rep

positions.

Thanks, Elana!

[Bottle]

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<font color=\"brown\"> Since

y\'all are my homies in here, I am picking this thread, my scentimental favorite,

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] to let everybody know that I\'ve made a new perfume, but not

just a perfume; and that it will now be available at love-scent!! My new cologne, Pheros, will

be available within the week.

I think it will be a very good thing, and will fill a niche that has needed

filling since this whole pheromone thing started. I have been working on it for 15 months or so, and am very excited

about it; as it gives me a chance to put into practice many of the things I\'ve been talking about since I came to

l-s! I\'ll give much more information soon.

Those of you who want to learn some more advanced info about

perfuming may want to engage in the discussion about the product. \"Case studies\" are a more advanced way to

learn in many fields. So I\'m going to be providing some intermediate information about perfuming, and using

Pheros to illustrate some points. And while the purpose of discussing Pheros in the first place is in part

marketing-related, I will have fun making the content of my discussions educational. The creation of the perfume and

all that was involved seems like an interesting story. I\'ll start a new thread for that, but will continue to

post basic information about perfuming here, as usual.

Thanks to everybody who has participated in this fun

thread!</font>

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its your fault that I went out and purchased myself

a rather expensive bottle of sandlewood EO, thinking I ought to get into this smelly lark...I\'m sure it could of

been got cheaper online...but I just had to get some and start my collection

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