Essence of Alpha Male

[belgareth]

There was a lot more to that

discussion and that one post, taken out of context, is unfair to everybody. If anybody would like to know more,

please read the entire thread: http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/sh...546#post197546

[tenaciousBLADE]

Thanks - I was wondering

how to get there, and I did get to think to myself "ok... but why did he only sned me that one post?"

[jvkohl]

There was a

lot more to that discussion and that one post, taken out of context, is unfair to everybody.

Sorry,

belgareth. I tried to place Bruce's post in the context of "hard" science, like neuroscience, compared to "soft"

science, like social psychology. Different branches of science have different philosophical approaches.



James V. Kohl

[jvkohl]

Different

branches of science have different philosophical approaches.

I am far less critical of the soft

science approach than others, and am not advocating that any contributer to this Forum become a shoe salesperson. On

the other hand, I do not wish to engage them in debate about my ego after they have repeatedly commented negatively

on my hard science approach.

“Since the null hypothesis refutation racket is “steady work” and has the

merits of an automated research grinding device, scholars who are pardonably devoted to making more money and

keeping their jobs so that they can pay off the mortgage and buy hamburgers for the wife and kids are unlikely to

contemplate with equanimity a criticism that says that their whole procedure is scientifically feckless and that

they should quit doing it and do something else. In the soft areas of psychology that might, in some cases, mean

that they should quit the academy and make an honest living selling shoes, which people of bookish temperament

naturally do not want to do.”

Full text

at:
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~pemeehl/144WhySummaries.pdf

PE Meehl has other works that attest to

the number of doctoral students he has taught, and that no one ever told him--even anonymously--that they thought

his ego was the problem.

James V. Kohl
author/creator: The Scent of Eros

[tenaciousBLADE]

Posted the last post

before I saw you two last replies.
I myself quote a whole lot... but quoting doesn't explain your point as well as

your own explenations might.
I remain saying what I just said above: relax a bit... take it easy

[tenaciousBLADE]

Well I've written a long reply, but decided not to post it after all


JVkohl, take it easy. We're all individuals and as far as I know we're not against you, and we appritiate

your cotribute to the forums.
You want to threaten to quit giving your opinions - feel free it's your own choice

(I'd rather you won't but I'll fight for your right to do so).
But by all means - let everybody else say

theirs'. Nobody's here to hurt you
Misunderstandings do happen - but they can be fixed by a simple, polite

explenation. You did such explaning yourself on this thread for example, by saying "Yes". No need to get

offended

[jvkohl]

Nobody's here to hurt you

Minimally, there is one person here who has done his best to contribute a

series of defamatory statements about me both in this forum and in another similar forum. For

example:

Mr. Kohl, is trained only as a hospital lab technician,... He has never

designed and conducted a study, and has no training in research or statistics whatsoever, much less the social

sciences. (... calling himself a "researcher" is a bit sketchy, by formal standards. And processing blood samples or

whatever in a hospital does not make you a "clinical laboratory scientist", like he claims. It makes you a lab tech,

period. It's not ethically OK to say that in the sciences. These are terms reserved for people who conduct studies

and have an advanced degree.)

---------------------------------
Excerpts from my response:
I

will stand by my introduction [on the other forum] and thank others for welcoming me.... More recently, I posted

that I received an award for the author(s) of the best social science article, chapter, or book published during the

previous year....

You can verify my Clinical Laboratory Scientist credentials via links from my introduction:

either to the National Credentialing Agency for Laboratory Personnel, or to the American Society for Clinical

Laboratory Science, You can verify my use of "Researcher" by examining the membership requirements for the Society

for Neuroscience. "All applicants... must be sponsored by two regular or emeritus members of the Society and must

submit a curriculum vitae and bibliography with the application form." Sponsors attest that applicants have made a

significant contribution to the field (e.g., via research).

I helped to design several research studies. A

student researcher and I presented the most recent research results in April 2007 at the Association for

Chemoreception Sciences annual meeting.

Discussions would be easier for me if defamatory comments about my

credentials and expertise were either not anonymously made, or not made at

all.
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I've haven't heard anything from DrSmellThis since

I refuted each one of his defamatory comments, with evidence that is available to anyone who wants to look at it. I

chose to quote Meehl, rather than use my own words, to exemplify that training in research or statistics like social

scientists receive may be meaningless here, despite their emphasis by DrSmellThis. The award I received for "the

best social science article... published during the previous year" is an example of what happens when you don't

allow others either to direct you, or to deter you from research you think is important. Academics are often

directed and detered by their professors and by other academics, which brings me back to Meehl's comment about shoe

sales.

James V. Kohl
author/creator: The Scent of Eros

[tenaciousBLADE]

With all that said JVK,

and with all due respect... You are generalizing what you claim to be HIS opinion on you (or agenda... i.e. "wanting

to hurt you")... on everybody else on the forum. you come from a starting premise that we are ALL here to hurt you.

Or you at least seem to doubt each one of us before you trust. Instead of coming up with such a mean rude attitude,

you could simply come with the starting assumption that most of us DIDN'T come here to hurt you. Doing otherwise,

would be (and is) disrespectful to us as mear human beings.

Just take it easy man.

This will be my

last comment on this. So feel free to leash out if you feel the need for it :\

[jvkohl]

With

all that said JVK, and with all due respect... You are generalizing what you claim to be HIS opinion on you (or

agenda... i.e. "wanting to hurt you")... on everybody else on the forum. you come from a starting premise that we

are ALL here to hurt you. Or you at least seem to doubt each one of us before you trust.

With

Bubba's support, DrSmellThis sufficiently managed to force me out of this forum for a while, because my responses

were limited by the moderators, at Bruce's suggestion. With enough support from participants like you (there was

some support at the time), I might not have dropped out at all. At the point that most of my posts were censured by

the moderators, Forum members were only getting half the picture. I'm surprised that I've been able to tell the

rest of the story in this thread. It takes very little for a few vocal participants to gain control of what is

allowed to be seen on any Forum. My comments are not meant to implicate the majority of Forum members, who come here

for information and to compare notes.

Instead of coming up with such a mean rude

attitude, you could simply come with the starting assumption that most of us DIDN'T come here to hurt you. Doing

otherwise, would be (and is) disrespectful to us as mear human beings.

I apologize for being

either mean, or rude; that was not my intent.

Just take it easy

man.

I will. Thanks.

James V. Kohl
author/creator: The Scent of Eros

[idesign]

With

Bubba's support, DrSmellThis sufficiently managed to force me out of this forum for a while, because my responses

were limited by the moderators, at Bruce's suggestion. With enough support from participants like you (there was

some support at the time), I might not have dropped out at all. At the point that most of my posts were censured by

the moderators, Forum members were only getting half the picture. I'm surprised that I've been able to tell the

rest of the story in this thread. It takes very little for a few vocal participants to gain control of what is

allowed to be seen on any Forum. My comments are not meant to implicate the majority of Forum members, who come here

for information and to compare notes.

I'm very curious now. What information was disallowed? Why

do you think you were censured?

[terry0400-40]

IMHO The Man JVK is an individual who is plain and simply who and what he is, I

personally dont doubt his credability especially now that i have been brought to focus on the Gentleman in the last

few weeks,

He has his own unique and individual style as a human product of his science and all factors

considered he is contributing to the forum and imparting wisdom and reports as well as his own opinions and

studies,



and i am thankful that he is hanging around and just being who he is and thats all anyone can really

do.

Maby we

have had enough of disecting and scrutenising the poor guy.

I recon we all should reconsile our

differences and move on whilst life is short and sweet.

I for one will try and not be sutch a shit

stirrer, And seeing as i am one of the least amoungst yous all will save my venom for any spammers that creep on to

the forum BLAM BLAM to our real Enemies

[jvkohl]

I'm very

curious now. What information was disallowed? Why do you think you were censured?

I discussed the

censured posts with one of the moderators and with Bruce in January 2007, and decided to post only to the "Pheromone

Research" section.

It is better designed for scientific purposes, like mine. No need to rehash this here.

It's the Love-Scent Forum; not my forum.

I have a popular domain where I can post whatever I like, but it's

harder for me to update regularly. So, my posts to the "Pheromone Research" section are a matter of convenience, and

they have helped me to avoid additional conflict here.

DrSmellThis made some defamatory comments on another

Forum, and linked back to the Love-Scent thread for support of his defamatory comments. He led me to look at posts

that had gone from "Pheromone Research" to more general discussion, which brought me here. I'm not planning on any

more debate, which is why I posted the comments DrSmellThis made and my response to them. I don't have time to

debate either the "soft" science approach, or discuss the "soft" science comments with anonymous posters. I try to

make time to discuss my "hard" science approach with anyone, anonymous or not, who wants to learn more about it.



James V. Kohl
author: The Scent of Eros and The Mind's Eyes
creator: The Scent of Eros

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