TG Field Report.

[tounge]

Hmmm, interesting post.

[Rbt]

I wouldn't get too caught up in any

sort of "plan."

I don't recall who said it, but a well known quote around military types is "no battle plan

survives first contact with the enemy." Best thing to aim for is to just let things flow. If it's going well, no

matter what it is, keep doing it. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

And I have found it seems to take about a

good 10 minutes for stuff to "work." Now it is said that pheromones themselves have a near immediate effect, but one

needs to remember that it's going to take a while for the brain to get the message, figure out what that message

is, what it means, and how to respond to it. Just like anything else it's all those danged middlemen...

[idesign]

Nice comprehensive post TG, glad

you made it to the forum.

You're right, dosing is critical, especially when you start to mix. I take

sabbaticals regularly and wear nothing for a few days, just to "clear out the chems". As for the PUA game, there

are a few members here who are into that. I never could get past some of the less tasteful terminology.



Agree with Rbt on timing. I've had a few fast reactions, but it seems that if you can hang with someone for

10-15 mins they've gotten a nose full, and enough time to process it.

[tgparker]

12/02/08
TE gp/AE

gp/SPMO

Lunchtime I sat near a table with an HB and got good IOI and some flirty looks from her but she was

stting right next to her B/F and I wasn't in a good state so I just ignored her, nevertheless I could tell the

phero-stuff was working on her.

Later on tonight I went and had a dance lesson. Working up a mild sweat really

does enhance the performance of the pheromones! Within 5 minutes I was surrounded by EVERY woman in the

place....They were all standing in a circle around me with DIHL ... it was really funny....

I had the

interesting problem that Pheromones will attract ALL the women in your area including the fatties and the ugs...

After some deft social manipulation, I managed to separate from the ugs and fatties and actually dance with the two

hotties.... The sweatier I got, the more pheromones were dispersed into my immediate area and the more the babes

were attracted to me and were really getting into it....

Pheromones are dynamite in a slightly stuffy contained

area where it's easy to build up a sweat via some activity like dancing or exercise and the babes get a constant

concentrated dose of the pheromones..

"Dancing Class" provides a a "built-in" social pre-text that let's the

babes lower their social conditioning & "bitch-shields".... Dancing lessons is not like "at a club" or "at a bar",

or "at a dance" where they're being hit on by 900 drunk guys... "Dancing class" is like "yoga class", or "art

class", or "poetry class"... there's always a majority of women (hotties, fatties, and and ugs...) and a only a few

men... many of the men are "gay"... so "dancing class" is definitely a target rich environment....

I had to

leave for work but the babes didn't want me to leave and invited me to a dance over the weekend....

Next time

I'll nclose & dclose the hotties...

I'm confident that the the stuff works. so I need to develop

mixing/measuring/dosing skils and settle on the best "sweet spot" mix for me.

I'm realizing that "LESS IS MORE"

as I seem to be very sensitive to the pheromones and seem to OD very easily...

I'm still getting that "metallic"

taste in the mouth is that a sign of Phero-OD?...
Thanks,

TG

[tgparker]

Nice

comprehensive post TG, glad you made it to the forum.

You're right, dosing is critical, especially when you

start to mix. I take sabbaticals regularly and wear nothing for a few days, just to "clear out the chems". As for

the PUA game, there are a few members here who are into that. I never could get past some of the less tasteful

terminology.

Agree with Rbt on timing. I've had a few fast reactions, but it seems that if you can hang

with someone for 10-15 mins they've gotten a nose full, and enough time to process it.

Thanks for your

comments, I'd like to talk with you further about proper usage and dosing techniques as that is obviously and issue

that I need to master.

The thing that attracted me to the PUA "community" is that they've organized and

correlated the Dating Skillset and set them down in a logical cohesive way and established a language by which MEN

can make some sense of their sexuality and gain more control of their love lives.

I would say that as a man I've

done better than most, as an unconcious & oblivious "natural", I enjoyed many wonderful joyful, exciting, encounters

and experiences with many wonderful beautiful women over the years. I have no regrets. I have been married, enjoyed

many LTRs, One Nighters, Threesomes, 5 minute lays etc.... long, long before anyone ever thought of the term "PickUp

Artist".

My difference was that I got "hooked up" with women pretty much "by accident" due to my basic good

looks, fairly healthy, manly physique, and
fairly charming, friendly, outgoing, & charismatic personality

etc...

I pretty much thought of the man-woman things as a matter of "luck", and that I was just a guy who was

"luckier" than most of the other guys. There were also other guys that I knew who were "luckier" than I was as

well....

The knowledgebase of social and sexual skils and understandings that have been developed over the last

10 years by the PUA community pretty much frees a man from the business of "luck" when it comes to women.

Using

the PUA skillset, I can approach, open, date & mate the woman I want, when I want, anywhere, anytime "on purpose" &

not "by accident" and the outcome is pretty much determined by my skillset and not by "luck" or "fate"...

The

moral aspect of whether or not I chose to date & mate the one fantastic woman of my dreams or keep a harem of many

beautiful women, is one of personal choice, but the fact still remains I need the same skillset to bed either one

woman or 20.....

All the best,

TG

[idesign]

When you think about it, dosing

is everything once you figure out which pheromone does what. That's why most of us stress -use products

individually and learn their properties before mixing-.

Once you have that knowledge, you'll know

something about your body chemistry (I can bathe in -None, or not), and you'll know how the "big three" work for

you in individual situations. You'll also know which -Mones cause what reactions from others, on their

own.

Knowing all that, you can work out a plan like: ok, SoE gets me great friendly hits with 12-15", and I ODed

easily on NPA, so, knowing from what I read that they're complimentary, why don't I try 1 drop NPA, spread around,

with 15" of SoE spread on the same places. If you get an OD, you'll know that you should perhaps try the weaker TE

instead of NPA.

Getting decent reactions from that mix? Experiment with A7 with the same SoE application and

see how that happens. A7's added -Rone will shift your signature, observe the difference.

I also think dosing

changes should be done in very small increments, esp -None, and esp esp NPA. Nol products like SoE are pretty much

non-ODable.

Standalones like AE and C7 are just a matter for experimentation, and should be approached

differently. Start with, say, C7 as a base, then "tweak" it in the direction you'd like it to go. None for more

sexual, A314 for more authority, SoE for more friendly. You get the idea.

Of course these are my own opinions.

Reserve the right to be, well, you know, like, totally wrong.

[Rbt]

For the benefit of others reading

this thread, I offer a few thoughts:

I know there are some who totally reject the idea of the PUA "community"

and materials, and I grant there are some guys out there who get far too "technical" and tied into a "plan." (And I

personally think some of what I've seen is crap. Some is good. Some ain't.)

But I have also been seeing in a

lot of social psychology and anthropological literature that there is more and more a belief amongst professionals

that not only social skills and behaviors (appropriate to the culture) AND the sexual "game" itself, despite the old

song about "doin' what comes naturally", has to be *learned.*

Part of the key is finding what works for you,

and making it a "natural" part of you.

Just an interjection...

[idesign]

Interesting remarks Rbt. I

can't disagree really. Maybe its me but I've never warmed up to learning "techniques". Its always been my

thought that if you improve yourself in whatever aspects of life your can, you'll naturally become a more

attractive person. In particular, you'll become more attractive to the kind of person you want to be with. For

me, it goes far beyond just looks, but I've never dated an "ugly".

I have to admit to a general

disinterest in "scoring" for its own sake. I'm pretty sexually driven, but I've always found more satisfaction in

longer term and more well developed relationships. Maybe my disinterest in "hot babes" plays along the grounds of a

PUA's "technique", ie they'll want you because you don't want them. No matter. Then again, this may be part of

what you mean when you talk about "making it a natural part of you".

This is not a criticism of those who's

goals and methods are different from my own. Just a different take.

another interjection...

cheers all

[tgparker]

12\03\08
TE gp\C7 gp\Old

Spice.

Today I went out into various malls and shops to both open women and see if the pheromones had an effect.

I approached and opened 5 women with mostly lame openers, but once the women got a "whiff" of me they would step

closer into my space and would continue the convo to stay within "smelling" range... when I stepped away slightly

they would step forward. I noticed that in every case ther women were happy, smilling, and "enjoying" the encounter.

they seemed almost energized. I'm able to get a woman into that "state" using my dating skillset, but I'm sensing

something else is going on more than just a woman's normal response to my usual PUA approaching, opening,

skillset.

I'm willing to postulate here that men and women are hard wired to respond to pheromones at a lower

brain level
and that it's taking over at a much more basic level regardless of what kinds of upper mind rational

processes are going on at the time.

I'm sensing almost a "need" to keep smelling the pheromones on the part of

the women.... So once the woman determines albeit unconsciously that you are the source of the pheromone

"attraction" she's going to unconsciously WANT to stay close to you.... until social conditioning or other factors

break her out of her trance and drop her out of state...hopefully by then I will have established enough connection,

attraction, rapport, trust, etc... using my PUA skillset that I can nclose, dclose or even mini-date or venue change

her.

In each of the encounters, once the women got a good "whiff" of me they kept chatting away and engaging me

and didn't stop until I pulled away and "bailed".

Do any of you Phero-Gurus know exactly what the biology and

science that's involved? I'd really like to know.

I had an interesting encounter at a gym which I figured to be

a pretty pheromone intensive location, with lots of "real" human pheromones comming from multiple sources. I opened

one woman and fairly soon I had three other women standing near me not exactly engaging directly with me but just

standing around smiling, happy, DIHL "sniffing" pheromones ????? I was amazed to seen that the "store bought"

pheromones were "out performing" all the human pheromones from all the other sweaty buff guys and gals sweating away

at the gym.... This is begining to get very interesting for me

The last encounter of the day was pretty good. I

found a nice HB9 sitting about 10-15 feet away from me within 5-10 minutes she gave me IOI, dropped her eyes, DIHL,

hair flip/twirl, watery eyes, then gave me an ass shot then a boob shot and then she walked accross a room and

touched me... I could swear I could hear her "sniffing" me... She was all smiles and very energized., once she

determined that I was the source of the "smell" she never stepped more than 5 feet away from me... I had to go to

work and I was running out of time so I had to bail out of the set before I could nclose or dclose the HB9.

The

pheromones will "open the door" for you, but you still have to "walk through the door", and "be the man" and close

her.

I'm really starting to really enjoy this stuff!

All the best guys!

TG

[tgparker]

I wouldn't

get too caught up in any sort of "plan."

I don't recall who said it, but a well known quote around military

types is "no battle plan survives first contact with the enemy." Best thing to aim for is to just let things flow.

If it's going well, no matter what it is, keep doing it. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

And I have found it

seems to take about a good 10 minutes for stuff to "work." Now it is said that pheromones themselves have a near

immediate effect, but one needs to remember that it's going to take a while for the brain to get the message,

figure out what that message is, what it means, and how to respond to it. Just like anything else it's all those

danged middlemen...

My problem for not having an "action plan" in hand is that I lose the initiative and

"control" of the situation falls back into the HBs hands, and then it becomes a crap shoot. Sometimes I get "lucky"

'cause the HB wants sex with me anyway... and sometimes I got "unlucky" 'cause of "slut factor", social

conditioning, lack of trust, rapport, etc....

Reverting back to Saturday, 20/20 hindsight, if my car & place was

clean and babe ready/friendly, and I had scoped out either a diner, club, desert place for a "late night snack",

near my house, I could have suggested a "venue change" after the dance and could have moved further along with the

babe, and then brought her back to my place afterwards... In most babes' minds, each venue change counts as a

separate date. 2 venue changes and it's like 2 dates in the chicks mind even if the venue changes are taking place

in the same night. @ 2 dates most chicks will fclose you. Especially if they've been supercharged on pheromones all

night!

Women WANT men to make the decisions and want men to take the responsibility for sex.

If woman has to

THINK about making a decision about having first-time sex with a relative stranger (1, 2,3, or more dates you're

STILL a stranger...even AFTER sex), she'll usually default to "NO" 'cause it's the safest decision....