Sure Bel, we're all

misunderstood to some extent, hence Doc's surprise about me being in the middle of the road. I was surprised too

and, as you say, there's no way to succinctly categorize the complexities of beliefs, understandings, positions or

other calculations of life on earth.

Its all fun though, and now I can call Doc a flaming liberal with a brain,

you an incomprehensible yet stolid weirdo, and myself even more of a flaming politically cross-dressing weirdo. But

what I've learned from you guys has nothing to do with a "compass", its interaction. Debate with someone who

disagrees is, obviously, what debate is all about.

As in all discussions of this nature, on these forums, we

should accept others' positions as their positions, and call each other full of shit with some level of comradarie.

What we don't want to do is emulate politicians.