A7 , SOE, and yep TUTH

[chicago]

RBT: anything that calms a women

is a bad idea. its better to have them excited.
________
Uggs

[HornyMan]

I'm gonna

have to conclude that A1 (although it WORKS) is not for me. I find it has too many self effects on me even though I

wear it away from the nose. It makes me excessively sedated and often SLEEPY. I reported once that I literally

fell asleep within 20 min after wearing this at home.

I think i am excessively prone to the + and - reactions

of mones.

Soe Edge did good for me, but Soe Edge A1 did absoluetly nothing today. I kinda followed

Terry's approach but I was invisible.

Keep in mind I also take anti anxiety medications. This has a

sedative effect on me as I have to take it in morning too. Anything like A1 which has further sleepy( lets call

it) as opposed to depressive effects and brings out the emotional baggage in women is not going to be a key player

in my game.


On the other hand I know the following mones WORK for me from repeated use. They have great

self effects on me, AND on my targets.

They are:

A7/SOE
SOE/EDGE

With the latter one I have

to be careful of buildup. A7 /SOE I've basically figured out and works for me 2-3 days in row and then I need a

day off. It also relieves my tension by making me verbalize myself a lot which releases pent up stress. Excellent

for places where you can verbalize yourself and show authority like work, or amongst male friends.

SOE/EDGE

is tricky. I don't like to verbalize myself very much. It makes me very polite and often smiley. However, I need

a way to release my pent up tension that inevitably builds. I guess since its meant for the clubs a great way is

dancing a lot -- that would relax all my muscles and improve my mood; also senseless fuking helps. This I believe

this is the best outlets for releasing tension brought about through this combo since I tend to be polite and not

vent my anger. Consequently, It has great effects in settings made for this. Excellent around women. Men

sometimes get a long with me, but sometimes they're standoffish while women aren't.

I can't believe after

all these years there isn't a simply tool/technique/or product which removes mone buildup instantly. I have to

resort to scrubbing and showering, which doesn't always work. SOmetimes I need to take several days off

mones.

HM

[terry0400-40]

I'm

gonna have to conclude that A1 (although it WORKS) is not for me. I find it has too many self effects on me even

though I wear it away from the nose.

It makes me excessively sedated and often SLEEPY.

I reported

once that I literally fell asleep within 20 min after wearing this at home.

I think i am excessively prone to

the + and - reactions of mones.

Soe Edge did good for me, but Soe Edge A1 did absoluetly nothing today. I kinda

followed Terry's approach but I was invisible.

Keep in mind I also take anti anxiety medications. This has a

sedative effect on me as I have to take it in morning too. Anything like A1 which has further sleepy( lets call it)

as opposed to depressive effects and brings out the emotional baggage in women is not going to be a key player in my

game.


On the other hand I know the following mones WORK for me from repeated use. They have great self

effects on me, AND on my targets.

They are:

A7/SOE
SOE/EDGE

With the latter one I have to be careful of

buildup. A7 /SOE I've basically figured out and works for me 2-3 days in row and then I need a day off. It also

relieves my tension by making me verbalize myself a lot which releases pent up stress. Excellent for places where

you can verbalize yourself and show authority like work, or amongst male friends.

SOE/EDGE is tricky. I don't

like to verbalize myself very much. It makes me very polite and often smiley. However, I need a way to release my

pent up tension that inevitably builds. I guess since its meant for the clubs a great way is dancing a lot -- that

would relax all my muscles and improve my mood; also senseless fuking helps. This I believe this is the best outlets

for releasing tension brought about through this combo since I tend to be polite and not vent my anger.

Consequently, It has great effects in settings made for this. Excellent around women. Men sometimes get a long with

me, but sometimes they're standoffish while women aren't.

I can't believe after all these years there isn't

a simply tool/technique/or product which removes mone buildup instantly. I have to resort to scrubbing and

showering, which doesn't always work. SOmetimes I need to take several days off mones.



HM

Funny stuff the A1 as after i had resumed using it after a break of

over a year then my first application did actually calm me down yeah it was sorta nice, but now the application of

A1 does not seem to affect me even when i use it close to my mouth and nose.



Thanks HM for giving me the idea to use TE gel again

as i am happy with the results and the lil sexy kick it adds to the SOE.



As im nearly outa TE gel i will be using my PI, SOE for awhile and possably

just keep my A1 for special target assignments

[HornyMan]

No probs Terry. Thanks

for testing it all out.. Much appreciated...

I find the Edge gel gets me horny but the edge spray never

did.

HM

[Rbt]

RBT: anything

that calms a women is a bad idea. its better to have them excited.

Disagree. Depends on the

situation. And what you want. Androstenone usually makes the women I have tried it around very withdrawn, nervous,

and uncomfortable. (I sometimes just wear a product, mix with others, and watch reaction without interacting

myself.)

If you want one-night-stand sex then I can see getting them "excited." But I'd rather do that by using

personality over chemical dependence, unless I really don't care to deal with them again.

Otherwise I'd rather

have them in a more relaxed "romantic" mood. I seek long term relations.

[terry0400-40]

Quote:
Originally Posted

by chicago

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RBT: anything that calms a women is a bad idea. its better to have them

open, excited and wet wet wet.

Yes chicago i am certainly

empathetic with you and understand the urgency for sexual gratification when you may be desperate for release then

for sure go get them all hot bothered and excited by all means to acheive your perceived needs of the

moment.

Also i can see Rbt's lay back cruisy type

of approach where he relaxes with her in his confident smooth understanding demeaner with the knowledge wisdom to

where a long term relationship offers the steady platform of superior operations and fullfilment.

[tounge]

RBT: anything

that calms a women is a bad idea. its better to have them excited.

Gotta disagree with ya there

bud. I would rather have a calm enlightening conversation and slowly build up that sexual tension if I think she is

worthy of that effort.

[terry0400-40]

Gotta

disagree with ya there bud. I would rather have a calm enlightening conversation and slowly build up that sexual

tension

if I think she is worthy of that effort

.

Very

intelligent strategy Tounge, well

spoken.




But for those that are in a frantic hurry because of desperation/ fear of

losing a sure stab then i would supose excitement is a less wise option.

[idesign]

Weighing in on this thread mixed

with another current thread where it was stated (roughly) that women can "see" a man's character.

Its my

experiential guesstimation that men and women each see nothing of importance in the first few meetings. I've

observed that the only matters that exist on a first meeting are either chemistry (which in itself is pretty

shallow) or raw lust. Neither of these is any basis for serious relations so you have to examine your

motives.

If your motive is sex at any cost, then nothing else really matters, and I suppose a woman who is pumped

up, manipulated and willing is a viable goal in that context. You'll wear whatever you can get away with and will

end up usually with a high -None mix just short of OD, perhaps tempered with something social like SoE or C7 if you

like to talk.

If your motive is longer term relationship building then you have a little more thought and effort

to put into the process. In this context pheromone usage becomes more of an art form of blending, tweaking and

applying to match what you already know about yourself. In this context, pheromones become more of an extension of

yourself rather than a projection of who you'd like to be.

[terry0400-40]

Weighing in on this thread mixed with another current thread where it was stated (roughly)

that women can "see" a man's character.

Its my experiential guesstimation that men and women each see nothing

of importance in the first few meetings. I've observed that the only matters that exist on a first meeting are

either chemistry (which in itself is pretty shallow) or raw lust. Neither of these is any basis for serious

relations so you have to examine your motives.

and I suppose a woman who is pumped up, manipulated and willing

is a viable goal in that context. You'll wear whatever you can get away with and will end up usually with a high

-None mix just short of OD, perhaps tempered with something social like SoE or C7 if you like to talk.

If your

motive is longer term relationship building then you have a little more thought and effort to put into the process.

In this context pheromone usage becomes more of an art form of blending, tweaking and applying to match what you

already know about yourself. In this context, pheromones become more of an extension of yourself rather than a

projection of who you'd like to be.

If your motive is sex at any cost, then nothing else really

matters,mmmm Sex at any cost sure is something that i have experienced many

times in my life and just when i think it will never rise up and take me over ever again it always seems inevitable

that the thrill of the skin deep once again has taken me to the point of no return.



I am in a safe harbour at the moment and will put

all thought of juicy poon and the big boy out of my head and concentrate if i can on the spirit of Christmas and

giving good gifts ect.

[chicago]

Idesign: how do you create raw

sexual feeling in women ?
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Marijuana Vaporizer

[idesign]

Idesign:

how do you create raw sexual feeling in women ?

Its just a reaction to my natural charming self.




Seriously, I don't try. In my experience, raw sexual feelings are more satisfying in the context of a

relationship that has developed to some point. Knowing something about each others' likes, dislikes and

propensities leads to more uninhibited playtime.

Trust is a huge factor as well. When a woman trusts you she

is much more likely to go places freely and with less restraint. Once a woman feels secure in your embrace, the

sky's the limit.

If you've chosen the right partner, raw sexual times are just one part of a diverse landscape.



Chicago, I'm not knocking your, or anyone's, motives and methods. When I was playing the game there were

no PUA gurus or synthetic pheromones, we just went out and did our best. You guys have all these tools and you're

playing them like an inside straight with a marked deck.

What I learned was that, for me, hooking up with

someone was always better in the end if a certain process was observed. If you like each other for reasons other

than physical attraction, the sexual tension increases, as tounge stated.