The smell of meat

[belgareth]

Gegogi, Well put! The claims in

Bronzie's post of toxicity are pure tripe. For instance they eat blowfish in Japan. Food from the sea is no less

toxic than from the land. In some ways probably more due to heavy metal content. I know there are a lot of warnings

about fish caught in certain areas. Pork and chicken both are extremely likely to poison you if you don't cook them

thoroughly. And people do eat primate, monkey is rather good actually. Carnivore eats carnivore every day. All the

claims made are actually excuses for social mores that have no rational basis.

I agree about the forcing of

viewpoints on others and what it has brought us. It's sad but is what our narrow minded self rightous behavoir has

brought us. More acceptance and less condemation of others' habits and beliefs would solve a lot of problems.

[koolking1]

"Pork and chicken both are

extremely likely to poison you if you don't cook them thoroughly".

True enough in the USA. I have eaten

raw pork in north eastern Thailand where it's commonly served as a dish called "lob". Aside from many other

ingredients it's somewhat cooked by the addtion of lime juice. The Thais feed their free range pigs rice hence

they don't have the toxins that our pigs have. And, Thai rice is the best in the world. It's readily available

in the supermarkets here in the USA and very easy to cook. I recommend Nishon Brand, Thai Jasmine Rice, try it once

and you'll see what I mean.

Horse meet is available and legal to eat in Quebec Canada. I've had it

bbq'd by some old Laotian refugee friends that live there, not bad at all. In SE Asia they don't eat just any old

dog, it has to be a certain type and it won't be the family pet, a poodle or dachshund would never be eaten.



Over the past many years I've really cut back my consumption of all meats, particularly red meat but I

still eat it once in a while, mainly in tacos. Sue and I eat seafood for the most part of our diet. It's best to

stick to the smaller species such as cod, haddock, salmon and to avoid the larger species such as shark, swordfish,

and tuna which have higher mercury content due to their size. Tilapia, which is getting quite popular, are a

vegetarian fish. The real name for it is Nile Perch and it was imported into the USA from Africa to help control

the abundant vegetation in the Texas power plant lakes which are quite warm watered lakes. They reproduce like

proverbial "bunnies". Unfortunately, it's way overpriced in the stores and should be priced more like chicken,

it's that abundantly available. As time goes on, it's likely to become more of a staple as it grows well in fish

farm tanks.

Pineapple juice is the best thing of all to drink if you want to produce better tasting semen.

Coffee and beer are bad in that regard.

Lastly, I have to agree 100% with the posters who are more

tolerant of other culture's eating habits. It' not our place to judge that aspect of another's culture and if

you don't judge and are in some other country, you are more apt to enjoy the people and their culture, you might

even get invited out to a great feast and make a lot of new friends. When I took Sue to Thailand last year she

discovered she liked eating fried grubs and she was a hit with the locals because she didn't shy away from it.

Protein!

[belgareth]

Lastly, I

have to agree 100% with the posters who are more tolerant of other culture's eating habits. It' not our place to

judge that aspect of another's culture and if you don't judge and are in some other country, you are more apt to

enjoy the people and their culture, you might even get invited out to a great feast and make a lot of new friends.

When I took Sue to Thailand last year she discovered she liked eating fried grubs and she was a hit with the locals

because she didn't shy away from it. Protein!

My older sister's inlaws are Japanese and her husband was a

very good friend of mine. As a result I was exposed to their culture. Yuki, his mother, was a fine cook but I

learned to never ask what I was eating until I had tried it.

Since those days I have been around many cultures

and have been enriched by every one of them. We westerners are often arrogant and spoiled. Reality is that these

people have their own cultures, many of them thousands of years older than our own and all of them worthy of

respect. I'd get pretty pissed if somebody came in and tried to tell me to change my way of life to suit them. I'd

fight back too and it wouldn't be much prettier than what you see on the news now.

[bronzie]

Gegogi, Well

put! The claims in Bronzie's post of toxicity are pure tripe. For instance they eat blowfish in Japan. Food from

the sea is no less toxic than from the land. In some ways probably more due to heavy metal content. I know there are

a lot of warnings about fish caught in certain areas. Pork and chicken both are extremely likely to poison you if

you don't cook them thoroughly. And people do eat primate, monkey is rather good actually. Carnivore eats carnivore

every day. All the claims made are actually excuses for social mores that have no rational basis.

I agree

about the forcing of viewpoints on others and what it has brought us. It's sad but is what our narrow minded self

rightous behavoir has brought us. More acceptance and less condemation of others' habits and beliefs would solve a

lot of problems.

Toxicity is a very real issue in meat consumption, and im talking about toxins and

bacteria that live in the animal, this is a real issue, and the mad cow episode a few years ago was a wake up call

to the the world with regards to this. Most domesticated animals bred for meat consumption have high level of toxins

(especially in countries that have a low standard of health regulation in thier meat industries and a polluted

enviroment), and most game meats, ( dog, kangaroo, pheasent etc) have a high level of bad bacteria in the flesh of

the animal. Red meat is also catalist for alot of cancers, including colon cancer.

Sea creatures caught in

clean waters are clean to eat and have low toxins, heavy metals etc, again this depends on species and the age of

the animal. But most fishermen and consumers that have an eye for a good catch can pick out what is best in a fish

(im not talking frozen fish fingers or a fillet of fish from Mcdonalds)

I dont force my views on other

peoples eating habits, they do what they choose in thier kitchens and in thier countries, however im glad I live in

a country with fresh produce, and the cultural and the ideological view of the collective accepted cuisine reflects

my beliefs.

I follow a strict Mediteranean diet, which includes alot of vegetables, sea creatures, and little

red meat, and is reputed, (from scientific studies) to be the best diet for overall health.

[belgareth]

Toxicity is a

very real issue in meat consumption, and im talking about toxins and bacteria that live in the animal, this is a

real issue, and the mad cow episode a few years ago was a wake up call to the the world with regards to this. Mad

cow disease is a viral infection of the brain. It has nothing to do with toxins or bacteria.

Yes,

bacteria is an issue but not necessarily related to the specific animals you referred to. Pork can be bad because so

many diseases that like pork like man (Trichinosis comes to mind) but most that like cows don't like man. It is

dependent on the particular creature's biological make up and similarity to man's. Chicken meat and eggs are

famous for several types of food poisoning (ptomain and salmonella among others) and if well cooked are not a

problem unless the particular bacteria leave a toxin that doesn't breakdown under temperature extremes. Almost all

seafood has the same issue.

Assuming seafood is safe because it comes from the sea is dangerous. Dangerous

levels of mercury have been detected in deep sea fish and shellfish time and again. The seas are badly polluted,

worse in some areas than others. Fish with strange growths and tumors are rejected by inspectors all the time.

Similarily, many are rejected for high heavy metal levels. Bacteria is also an issue with fish.

Most domesticated animals bred for meat consumption have high level of toxins (especially in

countries that have a low standard of health regulation in thier meat industries and a polluted enviroment), and

most game meats, ( dog, kangaroo, pheasent etc) have a high level of bad bacteria in the flesh of the animal. Red

meat is also catalist for alot of cancers, including colon cancer.

I assume you can support those claims?

Although I do wonder how they are related to your claims I was responding too.

Sea creatures

caught in clean waters are clean to eat and have low toxins, heavy metals etc, again this depends on species and the

age of the animal. But most fishermen and consumers that have an eye for a good catch can pick out what is best in a

fish (im not talking frozen fish fingers or a fillet of fish from Mcdonalds)

You can support that, right?

Links?

I dont force my views on other peoples eating habits, they do what they choose in thier

kitchens and in thier countries, however im glad I live in a country with fresh produce, and the cultural and the

ideological view of the collective accepted cuisine reflects my beliefs.

I follow a strict Mediteranean diet,

which includes alot of vegetables, sea creatures, and little red meat, and is reputed, (from scientific studies) to

be the best diet for overall health.

[koolking1]

DCW, after just visiting Memphis, I think Dallas has a serious contender, nothing

but fried food everywhere and tons of fat people.

[live4themusic]

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[Mtnjim]

...people who

think 5 Big Macs a day is eating properly

You mean it isn't??

[gaf]

Pork can be bad

because so many diseases that like pork like man (Trichinosis comes to mind) but most that like cows don't like

man.

On a side note,
the pidgin english (PNG) name for white men is "long long pig"
just

thought I'd add that.