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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
    hallo gecko

    and xvs,

    thank you for your help!

    is there a big difference between alcohlo and oil-base

    None-products?
    Which kind of product works better and longer?
    Honestly, I don’t really know the

    difference b/n alcohol based & oil based –mones when it comes to which lasts longer. I know some people feel that

    alcohol based –mones evaporate quicker than oil based –mones, but I’ve never bothered testing this out myself (and I

    never bothered paying attention to it either).

    There are only 2 incidents I can think of that kind of speak

    to this:
    1. I wore 2 drops of PI/m (uncut) one night (this was when I was new to –mones & didn’t know what

    the hell I was doing). The next day, I had to get to the bank to deposit a check. I was in a hurry, so I brushed my

    teeth & washed my face & just took off. I’d forgotten about the 2 drops of PI/m from the night before & didn’t apply

    a new cover scent.
    This was mid-August (a few years back). I walked like 12 blocks in 90 degree

    weather to the bank. By the time I got there, I was sweating profusely. I walked up to the counter & there were 2

    female Filipino bank tellers. One covered her mouth & nose & said loudly: “Ohhhh…my…god…” She kept looking at me &

    turning away, and kept her mouth & nose covered. She had this horrid look on her face & was scrunching her nose.

    This was when I remembered about the 2 drops of PI/m (too little, too late on my part…oops).


    The other Filipino girl (who was helping me w/my deposit) just smiled & deposited my check for me. I thanked her &

    bolted for the door. Two weeks later, the girl who flipped out had quit (I don’t think she had quit b/c of me, but I

    think it’s pretty funny).
    2. I wore an alcohol-based concoction I’d made one night. It was kind

    of an AE/m clone, except it also had NPA/m, chemset –none, and A1 (in addition to chemset –nol & chemset –rone). I

    pretty much kept the –nol to –none to –rone ratios the same as AE/m’s ratios. I wore maybe 4 or 5 drops of this (I

    was even newer to –mones during this incident).
    The next morning, I was supposed to meet a

    friend & his parents for dim sum. Well, I woke up late, so I was in a hurry yet again. You guessed it…I forgot that

    I had –mones on & ran out the door w/o showering or reapplying a cover scent.
    I didn’t get any

    obvious bad reactions like I did at the bank, but I could tell people at the restaurant were kind of shying away

    from me. I had a 3 or 4 foot radius around me while we were waiting for our table. The radius would’ve probably been

    bigger if there was more room…haha. I didn’t remember about the –mones until we were half-way through with dim sum.

    My friend’s mother kept covering her nose. This was either June or July of the same year as incident #1

    (above).
    So both times, the –mones were still “going” the next morning, but I did wear an OD level the

    night before during both incidents (so maybe these aren’t good examples). And I’m sure that most, if not all, of the

    chemset –nol had converted to –none in incident #2.

    One thing I do know (as WorkingMann pointed out) is that

    body heat helps get your –mone signature out there. Back when I played with –mones more often, I would apply a bit

    more during the winter months (like WorkingMann said, colder weather = slower evaporation).

    If you’re

    concerned w/alcohol based –mones not lasting as long, you can try applying via the lotion “trick;” it may/may not

    slow down the evaporation rate. Two or three squirts of lotion in a teaspoon or into the palm of your hand, then

    place however many drops of w/e -mones into the lotion, mix w/your pinky, and then apply. I suppose dabbing & then

    rubbing lotion on top would work also.

    Or you can go w/what WorkingMann said: apply to your clothes,

    instead.

    In the end, I prefer making my own mixes; so I prefer playing w/alcohol based -mones (i.e., the

    chemset).

    EDIT: and yes, both incidents were very embarrassing for me.

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    Hallo,

    Is there a rule

    of thumb how long works None on skin (supposed average heat)?

    If I want to have a constant level of None after

    which time I have to apply which amount? After 4 hours 1/2 of the initial amount?

    Which time needs Nol to

    convert to None? Depends it on temperatue too?

    Do I risk an None-OD if I apply 1/6 Gel Pack of SOE and a 1/6 of

    TE every day? Or are the pheromones completely eliminated within 24 hours?

    Thank you in advance for replying my

    many questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
    Hallo,



    Is there a rule of thumb how long works None on skin (supposed average heat)?

    If I want to have a constant

    level of None after which time I have to apply which amount? After 4 hours 1/2 of the initial amount?

    Which

    time needs Nol to convert to None? Depends it on temperatue too?

    Do I risk an None-OD if I apply 1/6 Gel Pack of

    SOE a 1/6 of TE every day? Or are the pheromones completely eliminated within 24 hours?

    Thank you in advance for

    replying my many questions
    Most say that in general about some hours.. 5-6-7 I would say.. 5 if

    it's sommer, 7 if winter perhaps.. but again different from person to person.. So perhaps even though it's winter

    will only last 5 hours..

    constant level of none? I would be affraid of buildup.. Why you want that

    anyways?

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    Hallo Workingman,

    I

    noticed very good results in communicating with other people if I wear 1/6 pack of SOE and TE each! But up to now I

    have had any doubts regarding OD if I wear this every day!
    Are the pheromones of SOE and TE (almost) eliminating

    within one day so that I can apply the same amount and get the same results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuttgart-man
    Hallo

    Workingman,

    I noticed very good results in communicating with other people if I wear 1/6 pack of SOE and TE

    each! But up to now I have had any doubts regarding OD if I wear this every day!
    Are the pheromones of SOE and TE

    (almost) eliminating within one day so that I can apply the same amount and get the same results?
    If you

    shower and clean up I wouldn't worry..! I use mones at least 5 days a week and some times more.. And I haven't had

    problems yet.. I shower every morning before I leave and I scrub the application points with soap and the hairsoap..

    This is mostly my neck and wrists and haven't had problems with it yet..

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