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    Default *** Useful brain supplements... diets **

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    anyone got any tips on how to get smarter lol or develop better focus and concentration without any brain

    fatigue..... i dink plenty of water and sometimes take ginkgo biloba (supplement) and try to eat healthy most of the

    time, but i need more advice on brain development to do well in University

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    Liquid DMAE can help. It's

    sold as DMAE H3. Proper dose is based on body weight/mass. At 180 lbs I use 14 drops/day. Too much or taken late in

    the day will have adverse effects on your sleep.
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    can u explain what is specifically

    does..... and how long do i have to take it for the effects to kick in, and is it safe for teenagers because i

    fairly young..... thanks for the info im gonna look it up anyways,

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    It helps the brain to function.

    I believe it was sold as a smart drug many years ago. I don't know about side effects on teenagers so strongly

    suggest doing some in-depth research before you try it. I know it doesn't prove a lot but the FDA considers it a

    safe over the counter nutrient.
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    Salmon oil. Omega 3-fatty acids

    improve brain function.

    It's not like popping a pill, though (if that's what you're looking for - like

    something to pep you up for an exam). The results happen over time.
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    i need anything that can benefit

    me.... i was looking into these omega 3+ supplements, but i need some kind of improvement in the brain functioning

    concentrating aspect.... its like i have a short term attention span, and anxiety which leads me away from my

    studies, and keep in mind that engineering does take all your life away and you need to be dedicated to it in order

    to be successful..... coffee and caffeine doesnt really imrpove anything for me therefore i drink less coffee but

    tons of tea because its an antoxidant. Would it be best to get some doctors advice for such a little problem, i

    have no major incapabilties but these minor things make me procastinate so much its not funny lol

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    Megadoses of Thiamine

    (Vitamin B1) work very well for me for concentration on reading tasks (I have been taking this for a year). I am

    sure the result is similar to taking the Thiamine-derivitive smart drug, Sulbutiamine (Arcalion), which is popular

    in Europe. I take 1 * 300 mg pill of Vitamin B1 with a 1 * Vitamin B100 Complex pill twice per day for this (as well

    as numerous other health supplements). I take it with a B Complex as taking too much of one B-Vitamin will deplete

    levels of the others.

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    ^ how old are, and for late

    teenagers is it ok to take high dosages of what you are taking, or in my case should i take lower dosages, (im 18

    btw).....
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    Quote Originally Posted by abcd2
    ^ how old

    are, and for late teenagers is it ok to take high dosages of what you are taking, or in my case should i take lower

    dosages, (im 18 btw).....
    I think it is safe (im in my mid 20s) to take for you. Just make sure you dont

    take too much B6 (not more than 100 mg per day) and B3 (as Niacin, not more than 500 mg per day) - these can be

    toxic at higher levels.

    Anyway if I was 18 I would make sure I was exercising regularly, eating healthy first -

    eating enough protein with every meal, making sure I got enough water, eating plenty of dark green vegetables and

    berries particularly Blueberries, eating low glycemic index carbs, not eating junkfoods, and getting enough sleep

    BEFORE resorting to supplements. But if you are too lazy to do that (I was), do the research thoroughly and take the

    supplements if you are willing to take the risk.

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    How does DMAE work on

    concentration. Ive tried a few nootropics (idbenone, piracetam etc) and find them to be very usefull but they do

    tend to scatter me mentally somwhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icehawk
    How does DMAE

    work on concentration. Ive tried a few nootropics (idbenone, piracetam etc) and find them to be very usefull but

    they do tend to scatter me mentally somwhat.
    You may be different from me in many ways so I can only

    answer for how it works for me. I have had ADD all my life and so my concentration is a little flighty anyway. DMAE

    helps a lot with my concentration and ability to focus. It also speeds up my mental processes. I still suggest the

    liquid form because there is a real line that when you cross it you have trouble sleeping and relaxing. Since each

    drop of the liquid is 10 mg I know exactly how much I take.
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    Hi Icehawk,

    nootropics

    are like pheromones in my experience in that you have to find the right mix (or single product) that works for you.

    If you want to go the whole hog read up on the http://forum.avantlabs.com

    Neuroscience section and www.imminst.org Nootropics and Brain enhancers

    section.

    I have ADD too and have tried DMAE and it did not work for me for concentration after the first few

    weeks of continual use (though I never tried the specific brand that Belgareth mentioned.) On the other hand other

    products like Thiamine megadoses and certain herbs like Gingko helped ME with concentration issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icehawk
    How does DMAE work on concentration. Ive tried a few nootropics (idbenone, piracetam etc) and find

    them to be very usefull but they do tend to scatter me mentally somwhat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visionary7903
    I have

    ADD too and have tried DMAE and it did not work for me for concentration after the first few weeks of continual use

    (though I never tried the specific brand that Belgareth mentioned.) On the other hand other products like Thiamine

    megadoses and certain herbs like Gingko helped ME with concentration issues.

    Visionary
    It's

    interesting how different we all are. Ginko never had a really noticable effect on me. The liquid DMAE is a salt

    dissolved in solution, DMAE by itself is a caustic and does not absorb well. The pill form does not absorb in a

    reliable manner either. Those are also good reasons for recommending the liquid as the dissolved salt passes through

    he membrane and into the bloodstream readily. It did seem at first to lose it's effectiveness so I increased the

    dosage. 14 drops per day seem to give me a steady effect (almost two years now) while not interferring with

    reasonable sleep habits.
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    Yeah, but the liquid DMAE

    tastes like @ss.

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    So put it in a protien drink or

    coffee or gatorade.
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    At one point I was taking

    liquid Ginkgo Biloba and I thought that tasted awful, then I started also taking liquid DMAE and I thought the

    ginkgo tasted great in comparison,but I never thought to try it mixed in with another drink, I just assumed (yeah

    yeah I know) it would make whatever it touched just as awful tasting. I mean it really is some vile stuff.

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    Flaxseed oil, or fish oils

    are up to 4 to 6 times stronger sometimes but smell. So basically the omegas will help you with congnition and brain

    fatigue. Also it has been proven in a few studies that creatine also affects the brain in a positive way.

    Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thr3shold
    Yeah, but

    the liquid DMAE tastes like @ss.
    I have to agree the liquid DMAE is disgusting tasting... have you tried

    it for long and seen any results from it thr3shold? I might have to put some in my protein shake like Belgareth

    suggested...

    Recently I have also added a good brand of Bacopa on top of some of the other supplements that I

    take and have definitely noticed a solid improvement in brain function (improved logical thinking, learning, memory,

    etc)...

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    Exclamation Dmae Is For Wusses

    Quote Originally Posted by abcd2
    anyone got any tips on how to get smarter lol or develop better focus and concentration without any

    brain fatigue..... i dink plenty of water and sometimes take ginkgo biloba (supplement) and try to eat healthy most

    of the time, but i need more advice on brain development to do well in University
    You guys have GOT to be

    kidding about DMAE - next thing I know, you're going to be resommending DHEA for increasing Testosterone. (hint:

    not if you want real-world results and a margin of safety while using dosages that are backed up by clinical data --

    instead of using the dose on the bottle, which is the dose the manufacturer thinks you're willing to pay

    for.)

    But I digress... what you're looking for are called "Nootropics" or "Smart Pills" but I wouldn't bother

    with anything you can buy over the counter. Since this is the 21st century, Smart DRUGS are

    what you should research.

    Since you said you are "in University", I imagine that you're not in the USA. Thus

    you don't have to deal with grey market suppliers like some of us, and you might even be able to walk into a

    pharmacy and buy what you need.

    Piracetam, Hydergine, or Oxiracetam coupled with Choline is a good beginners

    combination. Deprenyl works very well and has some, uh, "interesting" sexual side effects.
    Vasopressin is AWESOME

    for short-term memory and is well-suited for sporadic sleep-deprivation cyling and traditional cramming. But Vaso

    gives me massive headaches and is not in the least bit safe for long -term use since it is a hormone. You can begin

    your "real" research at
    http://nootropics.com/

    but the most complete resource I've found is, of

    course, a forum...

    http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=SF&f=169

    You can find reviews of

    Smart Drugs there as well as an up to date list of suppliers.

    PM or IM me for more info.

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    And fish oil?

    WTF?

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    Fish oil is given to

    bipolars. I reportedly helps even out mood.

    I don't know if my thought process is valid, but it could be said

    that breaking the cycle of depression/bipolar should free up compute cycles in the brain.

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    I recently was told to try

    vinpocentine.

    Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about it?
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    I have used it quite a bit. I am

    not sure I can say how well it works. When I was in Japan I took a number of heavy-wt. "smart drugs" that had a

    dramatic effect. I don't think Vinpocetine is on that level, but it is cheaper and you can get it over the counter

    anywhere. I would give it a try and see what you think.
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    THanks, Bruce.

    IT

    supposedly helps cerebral circulation somehow.
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    I'm currently using a Nootropic

    called Clear Edge, it was at Anabolic Minds that I picked up their pheromone thread that linked me here. Clear Edge

    is great 3-4 tabs on an empty stomach and I noticed an increase in focus and concentration I was able to edit a old

    paper with new corrections in a few minutes and I also compiled and written a full essay on some art pieces within

    or a little less than 10 mins. I knew it would of took longer to get my thoughts on paper but I was impressed as

    that phase was done so quick while being very fluent and flowing in the essay.

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    Talking The best nootropics

    I've tried

    a lot of "smart drugs"

    the best IMO is getsmart.

    try

    http://smart-drugs.net/index.html

    you'll get info on different

    nootropics.

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    Does Getsmart make you hyper or

    jittery?
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    you won't be hyper or jittery.

    you will start to notice that you can retain info easier.

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    Awesome! Thanks for the info.
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    Same with mine as well! No

    hyperness or jittery, I bought while I can at a great price.

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