well, my curiosity just had dinner - VNO
fried wings anyone?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jvkohl
OK, Ive read a part of that
review. I intent on reading the rest in the future, but it'll take some time, and it's not my top priority (even
in my free time).
I got to admit that it wasn't easy reading this :frustrate. I have no scientific background;
besides being a leading student in my class, which was named "the science class" of my school.
Indeed, as a
student in that class I was exposed to a relatively-high level of science in an early age (for the most, I got to
visit & get lectured frequently at one of the best science institutions in my country - which is very well respected
in that arena).
BUT - it was only highschool after all :run:
So about half of the words in that review were
quite hard to understand.
Still, I did get a lot of info from that review (what I read of it). And from what I've
seen, I'm not convienced that the VNO is "not existant" per se.
Maybe non-functional... but even that is not
prooven, or doesn't seem to be :think:
Yet, I am convienced that the chance of it being a
non-functional organ is greater than the chance of it being a functional one.
If I may (if not, then feel free to
request an edit here... either from me or a moderator - I'll understand & won't argue :o), I want to quote a part
of that review, stated under the VNO title.
Quote:
However, recent data have shown that the VNO also exists in
adult humans [28]. Monti-Bloch and Grosser [29] found the adult human VNO responds to picogram amounts of human skin
pheromones with depolarization. These findings suggest, that the human VNO may function as a pheromone
detector as it does in other mammals. However, so far there is
no evidence that the human VNO is connected to a functional accessory olfactory
system.
That part just quoted, from the review you refered me to none-the-less, led me to
believe that the VNO is indeed existant. I agree, the last phrase in that quote, shows that it probably is
non-functional, as do some of the following parts in the review; but to say it is non-existant? [Maybe you simply
ment non-functional? or... non-exsistant in the complexity found in other mammals? :think::o]
But although it's
greatly unlikely to happen... Who's to say that evidence of the VNO being connected to a fanctional accessory
olfactory system, are not to be discovered in the future? :blink:
In conclusion:
I personaly, with the little
bit of care (or rather curiosity) I have for the subject, conclude the VNOs' non-functionality in humans - an
axiom.
JVK, I appreciate the reference, and hereby thank you very much for it :D
It fed my curiosity
well:thumbsup:. I hope others (in the lack of the scientific background to make it a more readable review) feel the
same way :)
P.S.
At least you bring some background to your opinions :thumbsup:
at this point, all I have left are these
2 cents
I've been out of the forums for merely a few days (and I'm probably ganna be out all this
coming week too); and I see a lot has been added to the discussion since I last saw it.
I don't have a lot to
say, my opinion remains the same: I have no idea if the VNO is functional or not, but for now, untill further
study is presented to the public, the chance of it being functional seems to be bigger than the
other.
Still, this discussion is very very interesting to me. And for now, all I have left to say are a few
thanks:
1) To Mungojerry: You seem to have found the right questions and wording to lead this discussion to be more
specific.
Not that I count that much, but you've gained a lot of respect in my book for these last few posts:) So
thanks for your input.
2) To HEC: for finally giving some details, and stopping the generalization.
It's
perfectly ok if you have details you can't reveal; still, giving some details made your credability go up a knothch
:o
I want to clarify something here, in case it matters... I never saw your words as a lie or a marketing ploy (I
saw the marketing as an option, but never claimed it to be the true option). But now that you've explained yourself
a little further and gave us some details, reading your posts seems much more interesting. Please keep being as
specific as possible:) It's always good to have both sides of the topic, when having a non-finished discussion.
3)
Well, JVK... don't worry, marketing is not everything in life & you already at least have one great product with
good marketing... I've tried it yesterday for the 1st time... it's very good as a standalone indeed :thumbsup::D