lol.
What a nice referal idesign

Well, I see your point JVK. But he wasn't trying to

debate.. although he WAS debating. I think he was just trying to make you see his point whether or not it's

valid.
By simply acknowledging he has a point and you understand what it is, you might have been able to

evade the so called waste of your time and the clearly stormy means used in that debate.

What I am saying is

that attitude may sometimes change the result of our actions even if the action remains the same. And that was

somewhat integrated in Bubba's main point... which is why I still have some respect for what he was trying to

do.
I agree that he gave you no means of explaning yourself and took you around the boosh (in a brilliant manner if

I might add - you gotta respect his smarts even when used like that); but he didn't seem to be aware of the need

for a debate to be mutual in terms of comparison. I don't think he was reaching for a debate... I think he was

simply reaching for you to show you respect the forum users and for you to pay more attension than what he thought

you were paying, to being subjective.

But then again, this is only an hypothesis... and there's no actual

reason to keep grinding this issue is there?
Yeah I'm probably just grinding water here...
Which

means we both are wasting time with this haha

Well... Bottom line, I see where you're coming from, and

I think in a way things are better now